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Originally Posted by bellhead
The problem is the population shifts from DC to Va have changed Va. to a slightly Blue state and the Hispanic growth in the 3 western states, NM, NV, and Colorado, have shifted 33 traditional Red states EV's to Blue.
Florida is another state that has shown Hispanic growth and with the slowdown of the population shift to the from the rust belt to Florida I see Florida going to the Dems also...
Even if Romney wins Virginia, Ohio, and Florida, Obama still wins because of the Western 3. 272 EV's
Agreed re: the shift in NM, NV and CO, although dunno the "hispanic" increase in FL works the same way, as that's largely due to the growth of Cubans (like Rubio), who are traditionally a much more Republican-leaning group than Mexican culture is. And the fact is that most Mexican-American folks understand that distinction too... should the Romney campaign have any ideas that Rubio will somehow "help" them.
Even if Ohio, Florida, and Va. go for Romney he looses, he will need to flip Iowa or Wisconsin.
With Wisconsin the turn out for the special election was 1.2 million and 1.1 for 2010 generals, the presidential in 08 was 1.8 million....
Iowa only went Republican once in the last 20 years with Bush in 04.
I don't see it happening. That's why it's over man forget about it.
General vote will be close only because the Red states will go 65 to 35 for Romney making up the difference.
Romneys only down by 2 points in MI and Wisconsin. The economy isnt gonna get better. Gop is raising way more money than Obama. Bell if you think Obama has this sown up ur crazy its gonna be close but its not over at all Romney for the win
Romneys only down by 2 points in MI and Wisconsin. The economy isnt gonna get better. Gop is raising way more money than Obama. Bell if you think Obama has this sown up ur crazy its gonna be close but its not over at all Romney for the win
Romeny will win MI when Pigs Fly!!!! That's like saying the Dems will win Arizona this election.
Based on turnout numbers I don't see him being competitive in Wisconsin either.
The math doesn't lie.
Obama has a great ground game as we saw last election and he will turn out the vote.
The way I look at it...if Romney can keep all of his states and steal Iowa (6), Wisconsin (10), and Florida (29) -- he wins in the House of Reps. Certainly doable. Plus Michigan (16) is a possible steal along with Virginia (13).
The way I look at it...if Romney can keep all of his states and steal Iowa (6), Wisconsin (10), and Florida (29) -- he wins in the House of Reps. Certainly doable. Plus Michigan (16) is a possible steal along with Virginia (13).
What are the odds on him stealing all those states? 1 in 200,000???
Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan are democratic strongholds are all of these states suddenly going Red? Also Obama is up 4 in Virginia, up 4 in Florida...
The election is a long way away but there is little chance Mitt wins.
The money will equal out big business and wall street completely control both parties so alienating one of them doesn't help them in the long run.
Agreed. Look at the states they have "given" to Obama. Obama loses FL, CO, OH, PA, FL, VA, NC, MO, and IA as a matter of course.
However, many "solid" democratic states like WI, MI, MN, MA, OR, NV and NM may go for Romney as well. I don't see Obama getting more than 232 electoral votes, but would not be surprised if he got as few as 156-162.
What are the odds on him stealing all those states? 1 in 200,000???
Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan are democratic strongholds are all of these states suddenly going Red? Also Obama is up 4 in Virginia, up 4 in Florida...
The election is a long way away but there is little chance Mitt wins.
The money will equal out big business and wall street completely control both parties so alienating one of them doesn't help them in the long run.
Right
Reagan trailed Carter three months before the election. Like the 1980 election, the economy and the performance of the sitting president will determine its outcome. Obama has already lost, the election is simply about the margin at this time.
Does anyone in their right mind think that
8.2% unemployment
$16 trillion in debt
$1.3 annual deficits
record food stamp roles
incomes and net wealth down
EPA and Obamacare creating further job insecurity
will win an election? Be serious. Only the lefty partisans will vote for Bo and there are not enough of them. The independents have left him and the youngsters and minorities are not energized to vote again like they did in 2008. Bo loses big.
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