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Old 06-26-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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Romney has a bigger gap to close and that's the issue. IF,IF,IF,IF, that's all I keep reading on these post. IF is a dream.
How about this if. If the current undecideds break for the challenger at the same rate they historically do...Romney is currently ahead in the Electoral College.

You are nuts if you think this isn't close right now.
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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of course it is, but that means nothing, the voter turnout was down and have you read or listened to the experts at all? The projection and this is by almost everyone, the turn out will be very low in Nov. Many of Obama's 2008 supporters are staying home this time. Many were one time voters, haven't voted before and won't vote again, certianly not for ahile. Add to that, some republicans that did not vote in 2008 won't make the same mistake this time. Do I think it will be a landslide, one way or the other? No, but if you think Obama is a shoe in and obvioulsy you do, you need to re-think this or be willing to say, in Nov, but I got that one wrong.

How do you make these predictions? How do you know if Obama's supporters are staying home this time around? It's June? This is incredible because you actually believe what you are typing and most of the tin foil crowd believes this exact same thing.
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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How about this if. If the current undecideds break for the challenger at the same rate they historically do...Romney is currently ahead in the Electoral College.

You are nuts if you think this isn't close right now.

"IF the current undecideds..............." Thank you for making my point. Let's talk facts and not IF's. Romney is not a strong candidate. There are so many intangibles that have to take place for him to squeak by with a win. I just don't see it happening. He will be chewed up in the fall in the debates. His flip flopping on issues will be the death of him. He already has an issue brewing with immigration reform. Based on his statements, I can't tell what side of the fence is he on in regard to this issue and he won't talk about it? No pun intended.
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:21 AM
 
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IF the current undecideds..............." Thank you for making my point. Let's talk facts and not IF's.

Fine, fact, if the RCP average of polls are accurate, Romney only needs to persuade less than 1% of Michigan and Florida voters to flip to take the lead in the electoral college. Hence, it is a close race.


Romney is not a strong candidate.

Neither is Obama.


There are so many intangibles that have to take place for him to squeak by with a win.

Nope, see above.


I just don't see it happening.

That is your opinion, I thought you wanted to talk facts?


He will be chewed up in the fall in the debates.

More opinion. Are you going to get to facts?


His flip flopping on issues will be the death of him.

Umm, Obama has flip flopped more the past 4 years or so, so it will probably be a wash for informed voters. Perhaps that is why polls show Michigan Independent voters picking Romney +6.


He already has an issue brewing with immigration reform.

There is some evidence that this issue won't play well in midwest swing states. So it is also an issue for him.


Based on his statements, I can't tell what side of the fence is he on in regard to this issue and he won't talk about it? No pun intended.

Obama tends to avoid specifics and when he does he changes. I agree with candidate Obama on a lot of issues. Too bad we both disagree with president Obama.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The link below provides a map of how each state is projected to vote after recent polling.

ElectoralVote

That's a good site.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:11 AM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:31 AM
 
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The major problem is Romney is an imperfect candidate.... Obama has lost his luster after 4 years, but people remember Bush and his MBA then look at Romney and realize he is Bush 2.0.
Correct. Romney just comes across as extremely insincere. Add his "business background" and multiple flip flops to the mix & he is not a compelling candidate. Their only hope is voter suppression.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The link below provides a map of how each state is projected to vote after recent polling.

ElectoralVote
"Electoral-Vote.com (formally, Electoral Vote Predictor) is the website of computer scientist Andrew S. Tanenbaum. The site's primary content is poll analysis to project the outcome of U.S. elections. The site also includes commentary on related news stories. Tanenbaum, a libertarian who is a member of Democrats Abroad, and generally supports Democratic candidates for office, revealed his identity on November 1, 2004, as well as stating his reasons and qualifications for running the website."

Electoral-vote.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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Well there you have it. It seems like they are truly being unbiased.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The link below provides a map of how each state is projected to vote after recent polling.

ElectoralVote
My poor Virginia
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