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Old 08-24-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by TempesT68 View Post
As much of a complete douche Rove is, his election map has been 100% spot on accurate down to the state since he started the map many years back.

His latest update shows Obama still pummeling Willard, and by +64 in the electoral map


Stomping Willard? Excuse me? Even if all the states Rove lists as "leaning Obama" fall in line with his predictions, it still leaves the President without enough electoral votes to win. And, there are nearly 100 EV's in the toss up category, enough for either man to take the White House.

Moreover, he's got Texas listed as "leaning Romney?" Good Lord! What's he been smoking?

This whole thing, including the map and the premise of the thread, is bogus.
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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Yep. And funny enough, the best years Clinton had, he had a GOP Congress that he was willing to work with. Obama cant work with the other side because he is too radical.

Someone remind me again, the last time the Democrats passed a budget. And you idiots say Romney is going to bankrupt the country? Do you have a comprehension disability? Have you looked at the debt under Obama for God's sake?

Rooting for Obama is rooting for the continued downfall of the United States. But hey, like Obama's father wanted, perhaps that is what they want.
The main reason for Clinton's dynamite economy was his tax plan that was passed when the dems had complete control. Clinton was smart to get all the nation saving bills passed when he had the chance.
If it wasn't for the GOP thugs throwing Clinton's proven successful plans in the trash under W, we would likely be debt free by now.

The only idiots are the ones backing the GOP. Reagan, Bush 1 and W all had the same things in common with their fiscal plans, insane spending, massive give-a-ways to the rich, and racking up colossal debt.
Willard wants to expand even further on these failed plans.

If complete failure is a good thing in the right's eyes, then Willard is your guy!
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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The main reason for Clinton's dynamite economy was his tax plan that was passed when the dems had complete control. Clinton was smart to get all the nation saving bills passed when he had the chance.
If it wasn't for the GOP thugs throwing Clinton's proven successful plans in the trash under W, we would likely be debt free by now.

The only idiots are the ones backing the GOP. Reagan, Bush 1 and W all had the same things in common with their fiscal plans, insane spending, massive give-a-ways to the rich, and racking up colossal debt.
Willard wants to expand even further on these failed plans.

If complete failure is a good thing in the right's eyes, then Willard is your guy!
You do realize that Clinton had a republican congress 75% of his term.....

No, I guess not.....

So, when the rebubs threw Clinton's plan in the trash, it was under Clinton.... Really?

Party In Power - Congress and Presidency - A Visual Guide To The Balance of Power In Congress, 1945-2008
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You do realize that Clinton had a republican congress 75% of his term.....

No, I guess not.....

So, when the rebubs threw Clinton's plan in the trash, it was under Clinton.... Really?

Party In Power - Congress and Presidency - A Visual Guide To The Balance of Power In Congress, 1945-2008

Yet, today's GOP House steadfastly refuses to work with Obama on anything, for any reason.

Why is that?
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:45 PM
 
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Why is that?
Because the senate will not do anything.....you know, Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader who refuses to put any bill to a vote that has been passed by the House (approved by both the dems and the repubs).

Why is that?

Please inform us.....really, we will be waiting....
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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You do realize that Clinton had a republican congress 75% of his term.....

No, I guess not.....

So, when the rebubs threw Clinton's plan in the trash, it was under Clinton.... Really?

Party In Power - Congress and Presidency - A Visual Guide To The Balance of Power In Congress, 1945-2008
Admitting that you are correct, why did everything go to hell under GOP control of W, and why has the GOP refused to work with Obama. It seems to me that the most effective administrations of the last 30 years have been with opposing parties working together (I mean Reagan/O'Neill and Clinton/Gingrich). Now, Gingrich did a lot of stupid stuff (Ken Starr,etc.), but the compromises under shared control seemed to strike a moderate balance.

As I have said before, the GOP has been so power mad and nasty, they deserve to lose in 2012. If they can show that they care more for their country than pleasing douche bags like Grover Norquist, they might have an honest shot in 2016.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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Good luck with that map. I will post it again for you after the election!

Obama has already lost. If we have to review (again) all the reasons to substantiate this, you have simply been asleep for the last four years.
Dont forget, the OP was the one who posted this thread

https://www.city-data.com/forum/elect...wash-poll.html

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Old 08-24-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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I'll say it over and over again until i'm blue in the face....Romney has a 50/50 shot right up until election night.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:06 PM
 
Location: 44.9800° N, 93.2636° W
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The GOP of the past is a dying breed. There is really no such thing as a moderate Republican anymore.

Even McCain had to lean further right to appease his party for the 2008 nomination.

The funny thing is, is if you look at most of what Obama has done without any ridiculous bias attached, its been pretty centrist. Good luck convincing your average fringe right wing lunatic that that is the case though.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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Admitting that you are correct, why did everything go to hell under GOP control of W, and why has the GOP refused to work with Obama. It seems to me that the most effective administrations of the last 30 years have been with opposing parties working together (I mean Reagan/O'Neill and Clinton/Gingrich). Now, Gingrich did a lot of stupid stuff (Ken Starr,etc.), but the compromises under shared control seemed to strike a moderate balance.

As I have said before, the GOP has been so power mad and nasty, they deserve to lose in 2012. If they can show that they care more for their country than pleasing douche bags like Grover Norquist, they might have an honest shot in 2016.
It's not whether I'm right or wrong, the dems continue to ***** moan groan and complain that it's all the repubs....but clearly the dems had controlled congress for many more year than the repubs.......and by what is said, everyone should be in absolutely satisfied...

So, why did Clinton do so good under a full republican congress (75% of his term anyway)?

I don't think either of us can answer with all honestly......
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