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Old 08-24-2012, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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News flash. The current projected deficit stands at 105% of our GDP. Technically, we're already bankrupt.
Hardly. Revenue exceeds debt payments by a large margin.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:36 PM
 
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Stomping Willard? Excuse me? Even if all the states Rove lists as "leaning Obama" fall in line with his predictions, it still leaves the President without enough electoral votes to win. And, there are nearly 100 EV's in the toss up category, enough for either man to take the White House.

Moreover, he's got Texas listed as "leaning Romney?" Good Lord! What's he been smoking?

This whole thing, including the map and the premise of the thread, is bogus.
Not quite stomping Romney, but he's much further ahead. For a real stomping, see Reagan vs Mondale, 1984

If Obama takes all his predicted states, that gets him to 257 EV's. He'll need 14 EV's to win.
If Romney takes all his predicted states, he'll have 182 EV's. He'll need 88 EV's to win.
On math alone, Obama has a much easier task:

Obama just need either FL, OH, or NC to lock it up.

Romney will need to take FL, OH and NC, plus either VA, IA, or CO.

If Obama takes VA and Romney takes FL, OH, NC, IA, and CO, that leads to a tie which would be broken by the Speaker of the House (Romney wins).

On Texas: South Texas is still very Democratic, particularly the San Antonio and El Paso areas. However, the chance that Texas will go to Obama is laughably small. Obama may have a better chance in MO, thanks to the whole Akin soap opera.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:39 PM
 
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Hardly. Revenue exceeds debt payments by a large margin.
Then why are we borrowing money to pay our debt?

Or you admit that there is a spending problem and NOT revenue problem....

which is it? By your other posts, you better make the correct call.....or you will fail....
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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Hardly. Revenue exceeds debt payments by a large margin.
Revenes for Bernie Madoff exceeded his payments also..
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:37 PM
 
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I think Rmney will easily take Texas with the republican party organization havig gai even since the last election.
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Funny, I have offered a lot of Libs the opportunity to put their money where their mouth is, but not one has accepted....
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Hardly. Revenue exceeds debt payments by a large margin.
You might want to talk to some economists then, since everything I've seen indicates that the deficit exceeds the gdp.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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People have crappy memories. Remind them that on the GOPs watch, the economy came within inches of a complete and total meltdown and while the turnaround has been sputtering, its still job creation rather than the hundreds of thousands of job losses we saw in late 2008/early 2009.


If Romneys policies were a slam dunk, he would be leading by several points. People are naturally skeptical of the GOP plan because it drove us where we are now...they just havent put their faith in a Democratic recovery.
That's the crazy thing. The just don't seem to care. Checkable facts have no impact on their sense of reasoning. It's either that they hate Obama so much, that the would sacrifice the well being of the nation on so many levels or that they are thoroughly brainwashed into believing that right wing media is telling the truth. They know that money is hemorrhaging into the election and Romney is owned by these speical interests...that alone is a red flag of astronomical proportions, voters are being surpressed, but it's alright with them. Something is rotten in this country and it stinks like hell.

...or...the internet is loaded up with paid trolls.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Obama has a major problem that none of the electorate maps and none of the polls are looking at. For Obama to win, he needs turnout. If he gets the turnout he stands a good chance of defeating Romney, if he doesn't then Romney will be the next president. Right now around the country you can sense a certain mailase. The energy just isn't there. You don't see Obama bumper stickers like you did 4 years ago. Only a few here and there. You don't see signs in peoples yards this time like you did in 08. Obama is vulnerable.... Very vulnerable....
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Obama has a major problem that none of the electorate maps and none of the polls are looking at. For Obama to win, he needs turnout. If he gets the turnout he stands a good chance of defeating Romney, if he doesn't then Romney will be the next president. Right now around the country you can sense a certain mailase. The energy just isn't there. You don't see Obama bumper stickers like you did 4 years ago. Only a few here and there. You don't see signs in peoples yards this time like you did in 08. Obama is vulnerable.... Very vulnerable....

Good post, and an important point. I think we are just waitng to ramp up on this. I think you will see your enthusiasm in due course. If I am wrong, you may well be right.
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