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Old 09-10-2012, 12:51 PM
 
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Put it to you this way, the money that we were spending on the wars that we were borrowing, we will no longer need to be borrowing. Money that is spent on military spending that was part of the war could then be applied to the debt rather than war. Seriously do some actual research on what the president meant.

ALL of it was BORROWED!!!!

The BEST he COULD have meant was that we won't need to BORROW MORE!!!!

You can't use LESS BORROWING to actually pay down ANYTHING!!!
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Put it to you this way, the money that we were spending on the wars that we were borrowing, we will no longer need to be borrowing. Money that is spent on military spending that was part of the war could then be applied to the debt rather than war. Seriously do some actual research on what the president meant.
Sounds to me OBoy doesn't know what he meant, either.

Here. Have some more koolaid.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Reagan and Bush One called this a peace dividend - a decrease in Cold War military spending allowing a shift to social programs and/or lower taxes. OMG. Are you dissing Reagan and Bush?
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Reagan and Bush One called this a peace dividend - a decrease in Cold War military spending allowing a shift to social programs and/or lower taxes. OMG. Are you dissing Reagan and Bush?
Sounds like it Bush Sr and Reagan were such libertards.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Yes, then were were in a mini-recession and shortly later 911 happened.

Then, Bush's Tax Cuts took effect and the Federal Revenue skyrocketed which allowed the debt to start being paid down quite quickly.
I was not aware that any debt was paid down during Bush's time in office.

Also not sure if there was a causal relationship between the tax cuts and the revenue increase. There was the housing bubble going on.

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Old 09-10-2012, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Yes, then were were in a mini-recession and shortly later 911 happened.

Then, Bush's Tax Cuts took effect and the Federal Revenue skyrocketed which allowed the debt to start being paid down quite quickly.
As I repeatedly explained, federal revenue did not skyrocket under Bush. What seemed like revenue growth was simply due to inflation and population increases. When one facts out those two, there was no growth at all.

Readers, for detail just look at this post:
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:30 PM
 
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Reagan and Bush One called this a peace dividend - a decrease in Cold War military spending allowing a shift to social programs and/or lower taxes. OMG. Are you dissing Reagan and Bush?

Except that we weren't borrowing the money for the Cold War.

Sorry, you fail.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Except that we weren't borrowing the money for the Cold War.

Sorry, you fail.
That's right. We had 70% top tax-rates.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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As I repeatedly explained, federal revenue did not skyrocket under Bush.

By 2003, Mr. Bush grasped this lesson. In that year, he cut the dividend and capital gains rates to 15 percent each, and the economy responded. In two years, stocks rose 20 percent. In three years, $15 trillion of new wealth was created. The U.S. economy added 8 million new jobs from mid-2003 to early 2007, and the median household increased its wealth by $20,000 in real terms.



But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history. According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall.”
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:35 PM
 
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Except that we weren't borrowing the money for the Cold War.

Sorry, you fail.
Reagan and Bush Sr tripled the deficit. You can't do that without borrowing.
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