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View Poll Results: What is your view on Obama, the Communist?
I'm a communist. I knew about his communist ties and still support him. 8 26.67%
I'm not a communist, but I still support Obama, despite this information. 5 16.67%
I wasn't aware of this. I supported Obama, but now may reconsider. 0 0%
I'm not a Communist. I knew of his Communist ties and his upbringing. I never supported him. 17 56.67%
I'm not a Communist. I didn't know of much of this information. This makes me dislike him more. 0 0%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-29-2012, 12:08 PM
 
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Yeah, the thought of a private website deciding what gets posted on their private property. How 'communist'...

Just like me. I decide which candidates signs go in the yard that I own. And on the bumpers of the cars I own. How 'communist'...

It's always a good laugh when someone explains how private property rights are 'communist'!
Private websites can do as they wish. However, it has been shown time and time again over the years that liberals are not fair with regard to the publishing of material. Liberals are known to close threads, erase comments, and silence conservative posters through bannings. They do this in a biased manner, instead of allowing open speech for members of every ideological viewpoint. If it were a posted liberal site, that's one thing. However, when a site is supposed to be non-partisan, or isn't mean to display a particular ideological message, it is troubling the biased nature that those on the left tend to display. Silencing speech is affiliated with communism, for communists would have people punished for speaking out.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It is blatantly obvious to anyone but the ignorant that Barack Obama is a Communist, yet so many people still support him. Why?

For decades we engaged in a Cold War with the Soviets to put an end to Communism, a Marxist market system that discourages freedom in favor of the state. While America is not at the same point as the former Soviet Union or the republics of Eastern Europe, it is readily clear that the president wants us to move in that direction.

Do you really support Communism?

If not, what are you doing supporting a Communist?

Obama stands for an ideology that is blatantly unAmerican and against everything this country was founded on. Yet, you still support him. Why?

Consider the following:

Obama wants to redistribute the wealth. This basically means that he favors taking from the workers (haves) and giving to the have-nots (non-workers) through the force of the state. This is not charitable giving, something that we should all do. Rather, this is tyranny.

In his own words:

Obama In 1998: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution" - YouTube

"Spread the Wealth Around"

'Joe the Plumber' Becomes Focus of Debate - YouTube

"New Vision of America Shared"

Obama - New vision of America in which prosperity is shared -8/12/12 - YouTube




Obama supports government takeover of industries, something communist countries do.


Consider the GM and Chrysler takeovers:

Dr. Ron Paul on Fox Business on Obama's Takeover of GM 03-31-09 - YouTube






Obama uses the radical environmentalist agenda to support the destruction of private enterprise. Consider his previous calls for bankrupting the coal industry, as well as his support for Cap & Trade, a policy that would put caps on emissions from industry. Such a policy would force companies to close, which would result in a lot of people being out of work. This is Marxism.



Bankrupt the coal industry & support of cap and trade


Obama's Promise the Bankrupt the Coal Industry - YouTube




Obama supported Marxism as it relates to Healthcare through the promotion of "Obama Care". That's government control.

Obama's Choice to run medicare: For redistribution

Donald Berwick, Obama candidate for Medicare and Medicaid chief shows his Marxism - YouTube

Actual plan: Marxist in nature. Control through mandates.

Obama's Health Plan In 4 Minutes - YouTube

Why Marxism in healthcare doesn't work. Seen from Britain

SEE AMERICA'S FUTURE Under Obama Marxism :: Britons Now Living It Say IT DOESN'T WORK !! Just FYI - YouTube




Also consider Obama's Communist background and ties:

"THE UNVETTED" presented by America's Survival, Inc & AB INDEPENDENT PRODUCTIONS - YouTube

Ties to communist Frank Marshall Davis, whom he claims is his mentor.

Obama's Mentor: Frank Marshall Davis

Ties to Marxist terrorist, Bill Ayers

Obama's Ties to Terrorist Bill Ayers - YouTube

Obama's Marxist Upbringing

Why did the Liberal Media ignore Obama's Marxist upbringing? - YouTube

Obama Student of Marxist Professors: His own words

Obama - student of Marxist professors - his own words - YouTube



Obama believes that if you're successful, "you didn't build that". This is rejection of the individual in favor of the collective, a Marxist viewpoint.

Obama: If You've Got A Business, You Didn't Build That - YouTube




Other Information with lots of links to support that Obama is a Communist
Obama Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Gay, Islamic, Muslim, Lies


Not only is Obama and the fact that he is a Communist a huge problem for this country. He also is not likely truthful with the American public.

Obama's Muslim Faith

Obama Admits He Is A Muslim - YouTube


Obama: "My Muslim Faith" - YouTube



Obama's home country: Kenya

Michelle Obama Admits Barack Hussein Obama's Home Country is Kenya - YouTube


Michelle Obama - Barack Is A Kenyan - YouTube


Obama ADMITS Born in Kenya!!! - YouTube


Obama Said He Was Born in Kenya Up Until 2007! - YouTube


Obama says he's not American and born in Kenya (mirror) - YouTube

Just so you know, if indeed he was born in Kenya, he is not eligible to be president and is therefore a usurper.



Obama supports some very vile acts.

Support for "Infanticide"

Obama & Live Birth Abortion / Induced Labor Abortions / Infanticide Pro-Life Anti-Abortion Video - YouTube

"If they make a mistake, I don't want them "punished" with a baby"

Barack Obama on Abortion in his own words - YouTube

Her body, not the developing child's being destroyed?

Pro-Life Kid Asks Obama About Abortion - YouTube


Think about it, do you really support such an individual who is:

-Communist
-Kenyan-Born
-possibly Muslim
-pro-infanticide
wow, what a rant: I do not like him, infact I can't stand him. I think he is arrogant, a snob, racist, maybe a Muslim or certainly a sympathizer, and just plain not cut out for the job. I do think he is a socialist, but I certainly wouldn't go as as what you are saying..Talk about downright hatred, you seem to relly have it...
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:13 PM
 
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Most socialists and communists don't identify with the label, for it tars their image in public, considering the negatives of socialism.

I'd say most democrats are true socialists.
Get a grip. If most democrats were socialists, the Democratic Party would be the Socialist Party, but instead it follows a neo-liberal agenda that supports income inequality, incredible defense spending, and a capitalist society. Rich liberals have no interest in giving up very much of their wealth to expanded social programs or seeing large portions of the private sector nationalized, since many of them make their money there.

I'm not a fan of Obama because he's not far enough to the left for me. If Obama even resembled a Social Democrat I would support him but he doesn't, so I don't. Calling him a Communist couldn't be further from the truth.

America is an oligarchy, and it's sad that it's so hard for people to see. Money controls our society, not the people.

These elections are living proof of that; neither candidate accepted public funding for the first time since public funding has been offered. SuperPACs rule the airwaves and are funded by billionaires seeking influence. Is that socialism? No, that's hypercapitalism tainting our political process. Wake up.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:19 PM
 
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Your Googling didn't mention that Howard Zinn is dead?
I didn't Google, I was told not to ..... LOL. I didn't realize Zinn was dead. Gee, what a loss.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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The Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing…….Beware the Message in the Fabian Window
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” Obama has an agenda. And, the "change" of which he speaks may well not be what most Americans think, or want.

What are his plans for America?

Redistribution of wealth from those who own the means of production to those who don’t
Fostering of class envy and economic class warfare
Government control of the health care system and education
Increased taxes on the wealthy (whomever he decides is wealthy - $200K / $250K Obama calls them millionaires and billionaires)
Taxing corporations for being too successful
Punishing with new federal taxes, employers who do not choose to purchase Obamacare health insurance for their employees
Increased deference to the United Nations and
Erosion of our national sovereignty (Mexico)
Consorting with enemies of Israel and America
Bigger and more intrusive government
Appointing federal commissars with no constitutional authority to do so
Ensuring that America is not a superpower, but an equal among all nations
Denigrating religion (which as Marx noted, is the opiate of the masses) and
Disregarding the Constitution in an effort to re-form (remould) a foundational document that has served us well for over two centuries.


Under socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you like it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live you would have to live well."
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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Private websites can do as they wish. However, it has been shown time and time again over the years that liberals are not fair with regard to the publishing of material. Liberals are known to close threads, erase comments, and silence conservative posters through bannings. They do this in a biased manner, instead of allowing open speech for members of every ideological viewpoint. If it were a posted liberal site, that's one thing. However, when a site is supposed to be non-partisan, or isn't mean to display a particular ideological message, it is troubling the biased nature that those on the left tend to display. Silencing speech is affiliated with communism, for communists would have people punished for speaking out.
Uh huh.. It's a 'liberal' thing...

Tell you what -- go to redstate.com and start talking up Ron Paul. See how long you last as a poster there.

Go on over to freerepublic.com. They have massive purges of posters periodically.
History of Free Republic Purges

It's called private property, genius!

If someone slapped an Obama-Biden bumpersticker on your vehicle, how long would it take you to 'censor' that message? Not long -- we both know that.

So grow up and get out of your ridiculous fantasy-world in which only liberals decide what sort of speech is allowed on private property.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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^^lol. alright i'm done after this, some of you guys are too gone.

During Obama's presidency, he had the opportunity to:

Permanently nationalize a failing auto industry.
Fight for a public option.
Overhaul Wall Street following a fiscal calamity.
Push for a more progressive tax structure.
End the War on Drugs.
End the privatization of prisons.
End the increasing privatization of education.

None of these things would have made him a communist, but he might have resembled an actual leftist. He did none of those things. If he is a communist he is literally the worst communist in history, which effectively makes him a capitalist.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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wow, what a rant: I do not like him, infact I can't stand him. I think he is arrogant, a snob, racist, maybe a Muslim or certainly a sympathizer, and just plain not cut out for the job. I do think he is a socialist, but I certainly wouldn't go as as what you are saying..Talk about downright hatred, you seem to relly have it...
Hatred? No.

What I am doing is exposing Obama in his own words. I am exposing him for the evil that he promotes.

Evil is supporting the murder of the unborn. You can't be more evil than that.

Evil is supporting an economic system that killed people who spoke out against it in their land.

Evil needs to be exposed.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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If we don't want name calling around here, threads like this should be deleted. This thread is so dumb, so void of any worth, so baseless, ill informed and facetious, that the only proper response to it is a direct insult to the OP.
Just like 90% of the liberal swill bandied about in this very forum every day.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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Get a grip. If most democrats were socialists, the Democratic Party would be the Socialist Party, but instead it follows a neo-liberal agenda that supports income inequality, incredible defense spending, and a capitalist society. Rich liberals have no interest in giving up very much of their wealth to expanded social programs or seeing large portions of the private sector nationalized, since many of them make their money there.
Most democrats are socialists. They simply do not want to call themselves socialist. Many do not even realize that they support socialist policies.

They do not join the socialist party because third parties have practically no chance to win an election. As stated, socialism is a dirty word.

Democrats are socialist, not fully communist, though Obama is communist in ideology. He simply doesn't go that far economically because it isn't feasible for him, at least not at the moment.

Rich liberals are walking hypocrites. They support policies that stifle the success they had.

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I'm not a fan of Obama because he's not far enough to the left for me. If Obama even resembled a Social Democrat I would support him but he doesn't, so I don't. Calling him a Communist couldn't be further from the truth.
You're a hard-core communist, huh, the likes seen in the former Soviet Union?

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America is an oligarchy, and it's sad that it's so hard for people to see. Money controls our society, not the people.
You need money to run elections. People have to be paid for their services.

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These elections are living proof of that; neither candidate accepted public funding for the first time since public funding has been offered. SuperPACs rule the airwaves and are funded by billionaires seeking influence. Is that socialism? No, that's hypercapitalism tainting our political process. Wake up.
As long as we're free, you can't expect wealthy corporations to not try to influence elections. It's part of living in a free society. Does fewer voices getting their message out have any drawbacks? Yes, but I'd rather be free than living in a land where the government controls with an iron fist. At least we have a little freedom left, but for how long?
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