Presidential Debate #1 - Wednesday Oct 3rd (Dick Cheney, John Kerry, Congress, campaign)
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You mean if he suckers the audience. It appears that didn't happen because the fact checkers are being read nationwide on the internet, proving that he won on his conservative bullying style only.
There was none of that that went on in the debate! Romney just pointed out the facts that has already been established in the media and there wasn't any bullying from Romney, because he was just commenting on what were already the established facts and that's why Obama could not do a rebuttal against the facts that the American people already knew even before the debate started!
There was none of that that went on in the debate! Romney just pointed out the facts that has already been established in the media and there wasn't any bullying from Romney, because he was just commenting on what were already the established facts and that's why Obama could not do a rebuttal against the facts that the American people already knew even before the debate started!
You ignored my point about the fact-checkers. Go ahead and celebrate your victory.
Who said legal? Those are your words, not mine. My business didn't allow for burying of personal expenses as business writeoffs - and I was audited several times. Hubby was never audited. Don't know what he buried, frankly.
Reread my post. I said these writeoffs were "creative." That means illegal. As I said, some of these people lived very large on their illegal writeoffs. Never paid the legal tax they owed. As a matter of fact, had extremely enhanced lives because of their cheating of the tax man. Some were eventually caught. One I know of ended up owing state taxes of over $100k, IRS closer to $500k, after an employee reported him.
Suggest you shake the fairy dust from your eyes on the oh-so-saintly small businessman.
i suggest you shake the fairy dust from your eyes on the government wisely spending that money.
why should people turn over their hard earned money to see it blown by the government? they lost literally BILLIONS of dollars on a pallet in iraq. obama spent 1.4 billion on vacations and perks while in office. there are lots of website out there on government waste and fraud and anyone can avail themselves of the information. here is just one of the many sites out there: http://www.cagw.org/
small business people work too hard for their money to be taken from them and frittered away or intentionally stolen. the more money the government gets, the more money the government wastes. every single penny of discretionary government spending now is BORROWED money, with interest due.
why not have the government collect the 1.03 BILLION dollars that federal workers already owe in unpaid taxes before they try and rip more money from the private sector?
hard-working people who manage their money well object to the WASTE in government and the disinterest in curtailing that waste. they don't have a problem with helping the truly needy, but they do have a problem with all the waste at the top levels. hard-working people are just asking that an ADULT steps in, addresses it, and fixes it.
the entire country would be better off if that happened.
the problem is there is no incentive for government workers to watch their money (since they just collect or print more) and the few whistleblowers that are out there get prosecuted by obama. they have bought into kenyesianism hook, line, and sinker because it allows them a free pass-until it collapses. (and everyone really knows that you cannot fix a debt problem with more debt)
Last edited by floridasandy; 10-07-2012 at 04:30 AM..
Obama was talking to America. To him, at this point in the campaign, Romney was just an annoyance that happened to be on stage. The Prez will address the Mythster with increasing force over the next two debates. The left wing just irrationally mad he didn't do it in the first debate.
Obama was talking to America. To him, at this point in the campaign, Romney was just an annoyance that happened to be on stage. The Prez will address the Mythster with increasing force over the next two debates. The left wing just irrationally mad he didn't do it in the first debate.
Anyone familiar with right wing radio recognizes Romney's approach to the debate. You simply overwhelm your opponent, shift your positions, deny all accusations and facts. It is very hard to "debate" this style of argument because of the shifting ground and the over the topic rhetoric of your opponent. You can't get trapped into defending against every lie and distortion because there simply are too many of them. The best thing Obama can do is go "inspirational" emphatically reinforcing his vision (which is the vision of the middle class) for America while never failing to label Romney as a tool of the rich by exaggerating his tax cheating ways, his firing of everyone in sight including Big Bird - in other words give what he is getting. He has to have passion and a little podium pounding thunder in his delivery next time. Obama is a much better orator than debater and he has to play to his strength.
Yes, Romney won the debate. He's lost his momentum after the debate, though. So ultimately, as most debates, the +/- will be minimal in either direction.
What momentum did he lose? Obama got thrashed in front of 70 million people no amount of post debate whining from Obama sycophants or convoluted job reports can change that.
You mean if he suckers the audience. It appears that didn't happen because the fact checkers are being read nationwide on the internet, proving that he won on his conservative bullying style only.
LOL so you think the 70 million people who watched the debate are breathlessly following the wonkish diktats of supposed fact checkers?
You ignored my point about the fact-checkers. Go ahead and celebrate your victory.
Yes, honest fact checkers (no spins or lies) via the media do help the American people decide for the right candidate! The debates just opened the remaining 5% of the undecided people's eyes to the facts! The margin for error in selecting the correct candidate has closed that gap, meaning that the next president elect will be elected due to the facts that was finally understood by those undecided and are now certain of their choice who is worthy to be the next President of the United States!
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