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Old 11-03-2012, 06:29 AM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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New poll shows Romney up by 4 in Pennsylvania; Update/Correction: Poll is not new


"Update/Correction, November 3, 8:18 am ET:
Jeryl Bier forwarded us the following email from Jim Lee of Susquehanna:
This poll is three weeks old, Jeryl. Not sure why this poll is still being circulated as “new”. Tomorrow the Pittsburgh tribune review will release a new poll they commmissioned us to do “post hurricane sandy”. It shows a tighter race. Jim"



 
Old 11-03-2012, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Link: Romney ahead of Obama in Pennsylvania by Four - Erie County Pennsylvania Republican Party
Susquehanna's final poll in 2008 predicted an 8 point Obama win. They also perfectly predicted Toomey's 2 point win for the Senate seat.

Now we know why Bill Clinton, Obama, and Biden are all campaigning in Pennsylvania over the weekend. They. Are. Panicking.

GO MITT GO!!!
Bhwaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ... oh those funny Repub Strutting Peacocks..
 
Old 11-03-2012, 06:51 AM
 
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Romney is NOT going to win PA. Give it up, Trace. We've been a blue state since 1992 and that looks like it won't change anytime soon. If you want to win PA so bad, then the GOP needs to nominate a 2 term PA Republican governor. Other than that, it's a lost cause
 
Old 11-03-2012, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Saturday polls so far
NBC/WSJ/Marist Ohio: Obama 51 Romney 45 previous: Same
NBC/WSJ/Marist Florida: Obama 49 Romney 47 previous Obama 48 Romney 47
TBT/Herald/Mason-Dixon Florida: Romney 51 Obama 45 previous Romney 51 Obama 44

Romney will win Florida. He's at 50 in 6 of the last 10 polls published, and is outside the MOE in 2 of those 10, while Obama is only leading in 3 of the 10, none being outside the MOE.

Similar situation in Ohio, Obama will win it. 50 in 6 of the last 10 polls, and is outside the MOE in 4 of those 10, while Romney is tied in one poll, and leading one other, none being outside the MOE.

This is why you see Romney running to PA, he already knows he will lose Ohio and needs to knock off one of those states (Mich/PA) to have any chance. Similarly, Obama has just 1 campaign appearance in Florida, compared to multiple visits in Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, etc. Except Obama doesn't need Florida.
I'm not so sure Romney is going to win Florida as you are. I don't generally knock polls with the exception of taking a hard line on the automated, landline only ones. But the Mason Dixon has some numbers that just don't gibe with other polling in Florida. It seems way too negative on Obama. Also, there is no gender gap. I am not buying that.

Another consideration is that the sample size is quite small. The Marist, on the other hand, is a good methodology poll and has very large sample size. The prez lead is almost outside the MOE on that one because of that. Even though Obama is not going there much, Clinton and the rest of the gang have been working it. I think, at this point, it is maybe 1-2 points Romney and they can overturn that with a large showing at the polls. FL could be a nice Obama surprise win on Tuesday. Don't count it out just yet.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I am from Pennsylvania. I live in Philadelphia. I have been watching the news and all the polls here in the Keystone State.

Obama is going to carry PA.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Mittens campaign is sinking fast. Election foreshadowing: Romney blimp seen falling from Florida sky - Detroit liberal | Examiner.com
 
Old 11-03-2012, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I am from Pennsylvania. I live in Philadelphia. I have been watching the news and all the polls here in the Keystone State.

Obama is going to carry PA.
The only thing that is really a question in PA, or all States for that matter, is how many TParty Reps will get thrown out.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Tuesday............No actually Wednesday can't get here soon enough.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 07:07 AM
 
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Don't worry Lefties, Tuesdays poll with smack you right dab in the head with only one conclusion to be drawn from it.
There will be no need to analyze, what it means will be clear.

My sympathies on your upcoming loss.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by gtc08 View Post
Saturday polls so far
NBC/WSJ/Marist Ohio: Obama 51 Romney 45 previous: Same
NBC/WSJ/Marist Florida: Obama 49 Romney 47 previous Obama 48 Romney 47
TBT/Herald/Mason-Dixon Florida: Romney 51 Obama 45 previous Romney 51 Obama 44

Romney will win Florida. He's at 50 in 6 of the last 10 polls published, and is outside the MOE in 2 of those 10, while Obama is only leading in 3 of the 10, none being outside the MOE.

Similar situation in Ohio, Obama will win it. 50 in 6 of the last 10 polls, and is outside the MOE in 4 of those 10, while Romney is tied in one poll, and leading one other, none being outside the MOE.

This is why you see Romney running to PA, he already knows he will lose Ohio and needs to knock off one of those states (Mich/PA) to have any chance. Similarly, Obama has just 1 campaign appearance in Florida, compared to multiple visits in Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, etc. Except Obama doesn't need Florida.
Polling people who would vote does not mean they will be allowed to vote. Fla Gov is working very hard to keep as many as possible from exercising their right. Ohio Gov too, I fear.
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