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I've noticed this shift as well. While it's true that "some" people have abused the welfare system it is not the case that all people who need help are lazy and worthless. You cannot have the kind of economic collapse that occured in '08 without severe effects straight across the board. People lost jobs through no fault of their own. This new GOP doesn't see it that way, however. Now they just blame those who are less fortunate and tell them it's all their fault so just go away and die on the street somewhere. I find it appalling.
You might be getting to heart of my critique. Precisely at a time when we should be "smelling the coffee" and helping each other, the GOP has gone on rampage about how feeding the out of work is socialism and out of control spending. Crass opportunism and bottomfeeding from the folks who launched two wars paid for with two tax cuts. They seem to be fundamentally mean-spirited and dishonest about really important things, if it will get them back in power.
I don't like the new GOP either. They are one-dimensional zombies....void of principle....with $$$$ as their singular core value.
In fact, I dislike them as strongly as I dislike the new Democrats - with their delusional obsession with "Climate Change", "Gay" marriage, and anything else at the fringes that attacks whites and traditions that have served us well.
Our political system simply no longer works for normal, average, principled Americans. That's why they've given up on it in huge numbers. I haven't been motivated to vote for President since 1984 - in which case I soon realized that my vote for Reagan was a big mistake. But a bigger mistake than a vote for Mondale would have been? Probably not.
Having voted Republican since the first time I ever voted, it is no longer possible.
We moved to Webster Groves, Mo. shortly after the Goldwater LBJ election. When I told people I was an ardent Goldwater supporter, they invited me to dinner parties as the only person they had ever seen who was a political extremist. There were some pretty mean spirited Goldwater supporters in San Antonio. Lots of folks were against medicare, including me.
I have not changed my opinions at all. The Republican party has. They would not allow Barry Goldwater in their door.
They have gone from Bill Buckley to Bill O'Rielly.
Most of my Republican friends have an alternate reality. An illustration of the delusion is that Republican businessmen are the very people hiring undocumented workers as they enter the USA. All the social costs are born by the taxpayer. They very same taxpayer that is complaining about the cost of the undocumented are the ones who benefit from their labor. We are all paying for it. It is just which pocket will the money come from. If you don't want undocumented workers, stop buying from people who hire them. It takes effort, but it can be done.
What has been really upsetting to me this election cycle has been the overt insults from the white right toward everyone else. The dependent classes, the takers vs. the makers, the 47%, government aparach etc. I don't recall Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, George W. Bush or Reagan or Bush I being so divisive, and showing such transparent contempt for large swaths of the population. Despite what I thought of his flawed foreign and economic policies, I never felt that W was racist or sexist. He seemed to like most people.
This election cycle, it is as if there are supposedly the good Americans and the bad Americans. I recall Sarah Palin playing this game in 2008, and I did not like it then. I am a hardworking, rural, white, christian, straight guy, but I really don't see myself as more American than a gay, Vietnamese, urban woman. I just don't care for this view of America, but judging by the Romney vs. Obama voters, it is as if the Repubs are very, very white, and the Dems are everyone else. I am having hard time seeing how the GOP has embraced a John Birch Society type platform in 2012.
Where did this new narrative come from, and whose idea was it? I cannot see it being a smart or very civil strategy over the long term.
The dems should just get it over with and rename themselves "The socialist Party".
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I don't like the new GOP either. They are one-dimensional zombies....void of principle....with $$$$ as their singular core value.
In fact, I dislike them as strongly as I dislike the new Democrats - with their delusional obsession with "Climate Change", "Gay" marriage, and anything else at the fringes that attacks whites and traditions that have served us well.
Our political system simply no longer works for normal, average, principled Americans. That's why they've given up on it in huge numbers. I haven't been motivated to vote for President since 1984 - in which case I soon realized that my vote for Reagan was a big mistake. But a bigger mistake than a vote for Mondale would have been? Probably not.
Yeah, IMO, the so-called "Reagan Democrats" were really sold a bill of goods with all that "Morning in America-feel good" crap, and they actually got hit the hardest by the whole "trickle down", and "we gotta pamper the job creators" mentality that we still see today. Remember that's also when the term street people was invented! And while we may not share the same values, I'd also have to agree that the Democrats have never done such a bang-up job of speaking to you folks either, and have basically just stood round and done nothing, while Rove and Co. courted the conservative blue collar voter. Biden makes an effort now and then, but the only one who really even comes close has been VA Senator Jim Webb.
Problem is though, that the country's changing demographics and the "handwriting on the wall" re: "change" in general, are obviously not favorable to y'all either. So it's like conservative working-class white folks are kinda stuck between the rock and the hard place. Do they stick with the new GOP "girlfriend" who's kinda nutty but at least makes 'em feel comfortable with their values (even though she keeps sleeping more and more with her wealthy boyfriends)? Or do they return to their good old Democratic "ex"... who's since acquired high-falutin' "big city" ideas?!
What has been really upsetting to me this election cycle has been the overt insults from the white right toward everyone else. The dependent classes, the takers vs. the makers, the 47%, government aparach etc. I don't recall Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, George W. Bush or Reagan or Bush I being so divisive, and showing such transparent contempt for large swaths of the population. Despite what I thought of his flawed foreign and economic policies, I never felt that W was racist or sexist. He seemed to like most people.
This election cycle, it is as if there are supposedly the good Americans and the bad Americans. I recall Sarah Palin playing this game in 2008, and I did not like it then. I am a hardworking, rural, white, christian, straight guy, but I really don't see myself as more American than a gay, Vietnamese, urban woman. I just don't care for this view of America, but judging by the Romney vs. Obama voters, it is as if the Repubs are very, very white, and the Dems are everyone else. I am having hard time seeing how the GOP has embraced a John Birch Society type platform in 2012.
Where did this new narrative come from, and whose idea was it? I cannot see it being a smart or very civil strategy over the long term.
You are very perceptive. The GOP knows that is going to take a super majority of white voters to win the election. Instead of trying to attract more hispanic, gay, black, and poor voters they have gone after the fringe groups. They have focused on Obama and painted him as "not one of us", with pure racist overtones. You are right about the past Republican parties. This is not your daddies Republican party.
There is a political ad playing in our area, geared towards the college crowd which pretty much goes like this.
We're going to ask the rich, to pay "a little bit more", to pay for your education..
"I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message"...
Uug!
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