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Old 01-08-2015, 12:44 AM
 
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Anyone who doubts that the Republican Party is seriously fragmented hasn't been paying close attention.

Republicans voters in 2010 and 2014 voted for conservatives who would stand up to Obama, defund this pet programs and do whatever else was necessary to counter his liberal policies. Instead of conservatives, they got Establishment moderates who, during the recent lame-duck session, caved to Obama by passing a continuing resolution that funds Obamacare for the next year, and that does nothing to curb wasteful spending and a growing national debt that stood at about $10 trillion when Obama took office in 2009 and has now surpassed $18 trillion.

It is true that there wasn't much that Republicans could do when Democrat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid was blocking Republican House legislation. But the Establishment Republicans who run the House (Speaker Boehner, Majority Leader McCarthy) showed their true colors by passing a continuing resolution that lasted almost a year instead of just two or three months. Had they passed a shorter funding bill, they would have had an opportunity to exercise the House's "power of the purse."

Now, the fact that Boehner has been reelected as Speaker only goes to show that too many Republicans who campaign as conservatives govern as Democrats-Lite. But that doesn't alter the fact that their constituents want what conservatives want. And those constituents are going to stay home after being betrayed yet again. And the Republicans will therefore lose the 2016 presidential election.

People say that Washington, D.C. is a bubble that is disconnected from reality. The behavior of Establishment Republicans certainly supports that view. They actually seem to think they can win with candidates that are far from conservative. To be specific, I'll go issue by issue:

As a conservative, I want to see the following:

1) Secure the borders, using the military if necessary. Make E-Verify mandatory. Deport illegals not by the millions, but as they are caught one or a few at a time. We manage to arrest and jail hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens every year, and we don't care that doing so may separate a father or mother from his or her children. But illegal immigrants get a pass from Establishment Republicans because the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wants endless cheap labor for businesses and wants to keep legal U.S. citizen workers "in their place."

2) Stand up for our nation's sovereignty and stop supporting the anti-American United Nations.

3) Fund the government through "regular order" with appropriations bills heard in committee giving the American public an opportunity to weigh in instead of passing multi-thousand page special interest omnibus bills that nobody has a chance to read, including the people who pass them.

4) Stand up to the lying liberal media and stop being such "gentlemen." The Democrats certainly are not.

5) Force the Democrats to take votes so that they have a record that can be criticized, now that Harry Reid is no longer around to block votes.

There are other things I want, but the gist overall is that I want a party that will make a strong, principled statement that makes sense to middle class voters and American citizen workers. I don't see that happening with either party right now.

And if I don't see it happening, I'm not voting at all. I've had enough of wasting my vote on these clowns.
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Old 01-08-2015, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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The Republican held Congress(both sides) can start right now by passing bills without riders or amendments attached that Obama can use as an excuse to veto them. It may be harder work to do that, but it is the best way to pin Obama down and get things passed that will work to make America strong again.
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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The Republican "party" is not what you think it is. Just look what's happening. Even those new freshmen reps were eager to kiss Boehner's behind. He must've had a ton of lipstick on his butt after that vote.
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:43 AM
 
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The Republican "party" is not what you think it is. Just look what's happening. Even those new freshmen reps were eager to kiss Boehner's behind. He must've had a ton of lipstick on his butt after that vote.
No lipstick involved. Just boehner's access to money.
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:46 AM
 
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No lipstick involved. Just boehner's access to money.

Sure, but they have to kiss his behind to get to it. Then again, his behind is probably more attractive than that awful phyzz of his.
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:15 AM
 
Location: WY
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I saw a cartoon about a week ago. Wish I could still find it again to post it.

It was a picture of a huge American eagle (conservative voters) looking down at a tiny GOP elephant, with the slogan "We're watching".

Sums up how I feel.
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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No they won't.
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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No they won't.
Some will. I stayed home for the Mitty Show. I decided to deprive them of my vote.
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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Some will. I stayed home for the Mitty Show. I decided to deprive them of my vote.
And by the way, it worked. There were just enough like me to give Mitty the gate. I might actually have voted for him, if he hadn't listened to the Republican consultants and gone all mealy-mouthed. Not to mention, I'd already taken it in the shorts from his Bain buddies. That line really did work against him. Those who got Bained and knew it, were loaded for bear. All we had to do is turn our noses up and stay home. Just enough of us did that.

JEB! is doubling down on this, so....
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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It will be Jeb or Romney and they will take up where Bush and Obama left off.
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