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Old 04-19-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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Ask the Hispanics who won't vote for him...which is the vast majority.
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um.....your not giving me any reasons
An analogy would be left wing Canadian-Americans voting for a right wing Australian-American (because of the common heritage) instead of the Democrat who is closer to their views.

 
Old 04-19-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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are you saying he's a 'white' Hispanic ?

too white for brown Hispanics to vote for him ?
That's not my place to say.

Ask them.
 
Old 04-19-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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That's not my place to say.

Ask them.

lol
 
Old 04-19-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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um.....your not giving me any reasons
He is Cuban and the vast majority of Hispanics are of Mexican descent, they do not consider him one of them, hence their will be no real support for him because of his heritage.
 
Old 04-19-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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Will he push his minority view on the rest of Americans who realize US policy towards Cuba needs changed?
 
Old 04-19-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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It will come down to who the GOP leadership will want and feel has a chance to win it all, Jeb or Christie will be far more likely to be in the final cut. If it comes down to Bush verses Clinton a large percentage of voters will abstain from voting, after all what difference would it make.
It is not your nameless, faceless, and possibly imaginary 'GOP leadership' who will be casting most of the votes in GOP primaries and caucuses across the country. It will be people like me and other little people who make up the GOP base.

Try this experiment: go over to the elections forum and do a 'show posts' search for either Jeb Bush or Chris Christie. Look through the posts of the usual right wing suspects, and you will find nothing more than lukewarm interest in either Bush or Christie. You'll find ardent fans of Cruz, Walker, and Paul. You'll find some enthusiasm for Rubio, and even for Ben Carson.

I predict that Christie will not even bother to get in, and Bush will have dropped out by one year from now, April 2016. Mark your calendar and bump this one year from now. We'll see who had their finger on the pulse of the GOP.
 
Old 04-19-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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It is not your nameless, faceless, and possibly imaginary 'GOP leadership' who will be casting most of the votes in GOP primaries and caucuses across the country. It will be people like me and other little people who make up the GOP base.

Try this experiment: go over to the elections forum and do a 'show posts' search for either Jeb Bush or Chris Christie. Look through the posts of the usual right wing suspects, and you will find nothing more than lukewarm interest in either Bush or Christie. You'll find ardent fans of Cruz, Walker, and Paul. You'll find some enthusiasm for Rubio, and even for Ben Carson.

I predict that Christie will not even bother to get in, and Bush will have dropped out by one year from now, April 2016. Mark your calendar and bump this one year from now. We'll see who had their finger on the pulse of the GOP.
LOL, being the squeaky well does not equate to being the majority of Repubs. You Think you are making the selection those with the power and money will do as they see fit no matter what you think, pssst Pawns rarely know they are being played. I predict you will be proven wrong, food for thought, did you and "people" pick Romney over the other candidates or did the money and influence shoved his way make that choice?
 
Old 04-19-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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I think Rubio has all the tools to become President. Potentially a great President.
 
Old 04-19-2015, 02:11 PM
 
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Meh...

He ain't anti illegal immigration enough to get the nomination.

And he's not "Hispanic enough" to have crossover Hispanic appeal...something he'll desperately need to win enough Democrats.

Marco Rubio has been painting such a lovely quaint history of how his parents came to America to seek that "American Dream" and all..then he was born and grew up watching his father work so hard to provide for his mother and himself..And Yes..Miraculously a bartender father was able to finance their son's post secondary education..obtaining his Law Degree from University of Miami...Bravo Mr. Rubio....BUT he conveniently doesn't mention his parents had a whole lot of help handed to them on a silver platter...NOT like any other Landed Immigrant arriving on the shores of the US of A... below is just a snippet from article that explains exactly why ~~

The history of Cuban migration to the U.S. is dramatically different than that of other immigrant groups. In 1910, the number of Cubans living in the U.S. was estimated at a little more than 15,000. When Fidel Castro took power in 1959, the Cuban-American population in the United States exploded: 215,000 arrived in the years immediately following the revolution. A 2013 article in Daedalus by Marta Tienda and Susana M. Sanchez, “Latin American Immigration to the United States,” gives a history of Cuban immigration to the United States.
In 1966 the U.S. government passed the Cuban Adjustment Act, which codified a fast-track path to permanent residency for Cuban exiles, essentially providing immediate naturalization regardless of quotas and visa procedures. After the fall of the Soviet Union, Cuban migration to the U.S. accelerated: In 1994 alone, 33,000 Cubans were intercepted by the U.S. Coast Guard. In response, U.S. and Cuban governments worked to establish a solution that would prevent Cubans from risking their lives at sea. The result, in 1995, came to be known as the “wet foot, dry foot” policy: Any Cuban who successfully arrives on U.S. soil is accepted; those stopped at sea are repatriated. The policy remains in effect today. A 2011 article in Connecticut Public Interest Law Journal explores the preferential immigration treatment provided to Cuban migrants. A report by the Congressional Research Service, “Cuban Migration to the United States: Policy and Trends,” looks at past policies and potential future directions. - See more at: Cuban-Americans: Politics, culture and shifting demographics


Now having said this..I would also wish to remind everyone..that Mr. Rubio backing away then running away from his "Gang of 8" senators who managed to get a comprehensive Immigration Bill passed back in June 2013....Those would be Latino voting block folks are very angry at him and his desertion of their plight.. It's not very likely he's going to garner any votes from that demographic ..While, Politicians seem to dwell on the Latino demographics...There is a whole host of other Country of Origin Immigrants who have been left hanging too!....Over 11,400,000 or more are now in limbo..and the Dreamer's as well, unless Congress does something to figure out how to deal with it..Self-Deport isn't going to fly this time around...SO far, congress doesn't care to even tho tax coffers would expand ++ if allowed to register, wait in line, pay fines and in return have no fear of deportation...No Citizenship granted..NO voting ..but in the meantime all those children born to them (dreamers) could I suppose ..Course their votes would never go for any Conservative as long as they keep demonizing them,,JMOO of course
 
Old 04-19-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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Marco Rubio has been painting such a lovely quaint history of how his parents came to America to seek that "American Dream" and all..then he was born and grew up watching his father work so hard to provide for his mother and himself..And Yes..Miraculously a bartender father was able to finance their son's post secondary education..obtaining his Law Degree from University of Miami...Bravo Mr. Rubio....BUT he conveniently doesn't mention his parents had a whole lot of help handed to them on a silver platter...NOT like any other Landed Immigrant arriving on the shores of the US of A... below is just a snippet from article that explains exactly why ~~
Rubio's parent's came over in 1956 - before the Revolution and when Castro was in exile. After Castro came to power Rubio's mom and grandfather went back for an extended visit thinking that Castro was better than Batista and that the family could move back. When he came back to the US Rubio's grandfather had no visa and was ordered deported - and then stayed illegally in the US for many years.
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