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Old 11-22-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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Yep, it will come down to Cruz and Rubio for the GOP nomination. If anyone thinks that huge, powerful donors like the Koch brothers and the establishment are going to give Trump the nomination, you're insane. Besides, Trump is only leading in POLLS, not a single VOTE has been cast. Polling a VERY small sample size of LIKELY Republican voters via the internet or by phone in no way translates to people showing up to the polls and actually voting Trump. The caucuses early next year will be a big indicator on whether Trump is actually going to get VOTES.
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Old 11-22-2015, 11:08 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Income inequality is the top issue, not immigration and trade.
Wait, I thought it was climate change was the top issue.
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Old 11-23-2015, 02:35 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Income inequality is the top issue, not immigration and trade.
They are linked. But most people, including you, can't figure that out.

Immigration, trade, average incomes, national security and, in a word, territorial integrity, are one and the same issue.

But average people are too dumb to figure that out and no one in power has an interest in explaining it to them. But it would be a useless exercise anyway, so I won't bother either.

And so none of those issues, individually or comprehensively, will be the main issue in the 2016 election; instead it will be something relatively trivial.

The most likely result of the 2016 elections will be the status quo: Hillary president with less than 49% of the popular vote, opposition in Congress, a portion of which hostile opposition (useful idiots), and more trasformismo (look it up) to get anything done, i.e. very little and that detrimental to territorial integrity.

I know plenty of folks who can live with that, and the rest who get what they deserve.

Business as usual, then.

Good Luck!

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Old 11-23-2015, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Income inequality is the top issue, not immigration and trade.
Seriously? Where have you been lately? Income inequality is a given. We need jobs, think sending out the illegals to their country of origin, not issuing H1B visas and having our citizens train them only to be terminated or never get the jobs in the first place because they are filled by H1B visas and doing something about the trade deficit like instituting the tariffs that used to be in place on incoming goods.

We'll fix income inequality when the kids are back to doing the minimum wage jobs for pocket change and adults have real jobs that pay money and have benefits. That is what needs to be restored by eliminating our attempted take over by foreigners.

Let's see, who is talking about doing those things?

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Yep, it will come down to Cruz and Rubio for the GOP nomination. If anyone thinks that huge, powerful donors like the Koch brothers and the establishment are going to give Trump the nomination, you're insane. Besides, Trump is only leading in POLLS, not a single VOTE has been cast. Polling a VERY small sample size of LIKELY Republican voters via the internet or by phone in no way translates to people showing up to the polls and actually voting Trump. The caucuses early next year will be a big indicator on whether Trump is actually going to get VOTES.
Rubio is financially incompetent in his own private life which is a BIG risk when putting him in a job where he could be bribed. He has shown that he likes to live beyond his means. Bad credit risk should not be in the White House.

Cruz backed that Davis woman on not doing her job and terrorizing her employees and not letting them do their jobs. Do you really want someone as POTUS that supports that? I believe in accommodation of everyone when possible, stressing "when possible". If you listen to the difference in Carson and his beliefs versus Cruz, you'll realize Cruz is a bad bet. Carson acknowledges that something needs to be done by Congress so that the jobs get done and there are guidelines. Cruz does not support that. I don't care for the whole "born again" Christian movement.

I often believe that the GOP just wants to throw the race. In the last two elections they ran people who didn't have a chance so I guess if they want to lose, Rubio or Cruz will do.
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Add Charlie Cook of the Cook Political Report to the list of those predicting a Ted Cruz-Marco Rubio finale for the Republican nomination. Erick Erickson of Red State predicted it earlier, and Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard had even earlier predicted a nominee from a foursome of the two Cubanos, Carly Fiorina and John Kasich.

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Those guys in the media should be ashamed of themselves for not taking a pay cut for all of the times they have been wrong in this election season. I would love to see a video on YouTube of all of the incorrect predictions made during this election cycle.

Rubio and Cruz do need to take each other, out though. They have the same voters except for the immigration issue. Two lawyers, neither one a do-er. Vote for either one and they'll talk us to death.
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Old 11-24-2015, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Income inequality is the top issue, not immigration and trade.
Very few people consider income inequality the top issue but it is an issue all candidates need a plan to deal with it or lose those voters.
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Old 11-24-2015, 04:30 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Very few people consider income inequality the top issue but it is an issue all candidates need a plan to deal with it or lose those voters.
And indeed it shouldn't be; the real issue should be raising incomes, especially the incomes of average people legally on US soil, not income inequality.

In any case, "income inequality" is an "issue" that is easy for politicians to "pay" lip service to.
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