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Old 11-27-2015, 07:16 AM
 
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Meh. Kasich has nothing left to lose at this point. He might as well attack Trump because he's not going to be the nominee. Maybe he thinks he can get a cabinet position or something if he helps the establishment.
I'm not sure how an argument that goes...."Trump is arguing to do the very thing we promised for years to do but never did" will be a winning argument.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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I did too. Not anymore. He also supports "Common Core." He's no "conservative."
He is a fake conservative.

Maybe a closet democrat
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Old 11-27-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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Kasich's TV ad compares Trump to Hitler. When members of your own party are making comparisons like that, maybe it's time to shave your mustache.


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"My party"? Ummm...no. I'm an independent who has no problems voting either D or R. I look at each candidate to see what they have to offer, then make my decision, rather than vote the straight party line like an automaton.

"Shave your mustache"? "Hitler"? You, as well as Kasich, invoked Godwin's Law. You both lose.
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Old 11-27-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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Shameful and disgusting! I Tweeted him and let him know what I think about it. He's lost my respect.
At this point Kasich is just a tool for the RNC desperately trying to get something, anything to stick to Trump. I wonder what promises have been made to him.
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Old 11-27-2015, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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"My party"? Ummm...no. I'm an independent who has no problems voting either D or R. I look at each candidate to see what they have to offer, then make my decision, rather than vote the straight party line like an automaton.

"Shave your mustache"? "Hitler"? You, as well as Kasich, invoked Godwin's Law. You both lose.
"Your own party" refers to Trump. Kasich compares Trump's ideas and remarks to Hitler. Trump's ex-wife said he kept a volume of Hitler;s speeches by his bed to read at night. I'm beginning to believe her.
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Old 11-27-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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"Your own party" refers to Trump. Kasich compares Trump's ideas and remarks to Hitler. Trump's ex-wife said he kept a volume of Hitler;s speeches by his bed to read at night. I'm beginning to believe her.
"Your own party" refers to Trump---what? You make no sense. Trump doesn't have his own political party.

And once again, you invoked Godwin's Law. You lose.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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"Your own party" refers to Trump---what? You make no sense. Trump doesn't have his own political party.

And once again, you invoked Godwin's Law. You lose.
Sorry you didn't catch the nuance. I think most of the rest of the posters here understood what I said the first time. No point wasting time explaining it again.
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Old 11-28-2015, 04:43 AM
 
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The last resort of the left and liberals is to call their opponents "fascist."

Then conservatives get defensive and say that "fascism is a left wing ideology."

Let's try to straighten all of this out a bit.

The three most cited "fascist" governments were Germany under Hitler, Italy under Mussolini, and Spain under Franco.

The fact is, they had very little in common.

Franco was a conservative Catholic military strong man who stopped the crazy Communists from taking over Spain. That's all. He didn't murder Jews. He didn't start wars.

Mussolini started out as a socialist, then became very conservative in the neo-liberal sense of the word. He wanted to recreate Italy as a "new Rome," with a strong central government. He worked with the Vatican and the Catholic Church to realize his vision. His imperial ambitions led him to invade Albania and Ethiopia (I believe), but that is about it. He was not interested in killing Jews.

Hitler came onto the scene when Germany was torn between Communist revolutionaries, capitalists and social Democrats. He wanted to get Germany out from under the strictures of the Versailles treaty and finish the unfinished business of WW I, which he denied that Germany lost -- instead it had been "stabbed in the back" by Bolshevists and Jews.

Because of these differences, there is really only one uniform meaning of "fascism," which is "anything the nutty left dislikes" (the "nutty left" includes Democrats, leftists, progressives, socialists, Communists and social Democrats.)

Fascism is not only nothing to apologize for, it is to be commended for being the bete noir of the totalitarian murderous Left, which has killed far more innocent people than Hitler could ever have dreamed of killing.
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Old 11-29-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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John Kasich Refuses to Say if He Would Support Donald Trump as Republican Nominee - ABC News

He does not expect the real estate mogul to win with just 20% of the GOP vote and 80% against him

Says Trump is very divisive

Said Trump mocked the NYT writer

Says Trump calls women names, mocks Hispanics, and Muslims....

Calls Trump a liar in much nicer terms

Says Trump won't last
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Old 11-29-2015, 05:26 PM
 
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Thank you. Great post!!
2nd that!
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