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Old 02-28-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Arlington VA
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There are plenty of Republicans who won't vote for Trump, and will vote for Hillary.

New poll this morning shows Hillary up 9 points over Trump in Virginia. That's like the 10th poll in a row from VA that shows Hillary demolishing the liar fraud Trump in my beloved Commonwealth.
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:32 PM
 
Location: WA
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Moderate liberal/Trump supporter here, and I'm a pessimist still bracing myself for President Hillary Clinton, especially if she's put up against Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio or any other establishment cretin who could possibly be propelled to the nomination come convention time (Romney, anyone?).
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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She could win against Trump. Not sure if she could win against Rubio.

I don't know how Trump can win when he terrifies over half the country.

"Fifty-one percent said they were “scared.” When combined with “angry,” 75% of respondents weren’t too fired up about the prospects of a “President Trump”...

https://www.ijreview.com/2016/02/548...-scary-answer/
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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Following the constant infighting within the Republican party, which now looks in disarray, it appears there are two factions of Republicans; Trump supporters and mainstream GOP supporters, and they increasingly hate each other. On twitter there has been constant usage of #nevertrump on twitter in the past 24 hours by non Trump conservatives followed by a retaliation of #alwaystrump from his supporters. We are left with therefore two scenarios:

Trump wins nomination vs Conservatives run 3rd party vs Hillary

Cruz/Rubio/Kasich wins nomination vs Trump runs 3rd party vs Hillary

I can't see anything else other than a Hillary landslide IMO, since theres so much bad blood between them, which is weird because if the GOP were united I think she would likely lose.

So it looks like we'll get a 5-4 liberal supreme court majority, 4 more years of Obamacare, Iran deal to stay, Immigration reform etc.

This conservative infighting may lead to a few more upcoming democratic presidencies yet. Its great time to be a liberal as America increasingly moves further towards Europe therefore.
1. The republicans will support the nominee.

2. There will not be a third party republican.

3. The only way the republicans blow it is by creating a "brokered convention" to cheat the winner.

4. Sanders is more likely to run as a third party.

5. Sanders supporters are furious at Hillary.

6. Hillary does not turn out crowds like Obama.

7. There are MANY demcrats who hate Hillary.

8. Hillary may be indicted.

9. Hillary will be exposed like she has never been before during the election/debates.

10. Many Union members and a larger portion of minorities will vote for Trump than any republican in the last 50 years.



Hillary is a VERY flawed candidate who has tons of negative baggage. The dems would have been much better off to put up Biden. While Biden certainly has his flaws, there is not a huge cohort who hates him.
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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There are plenty of Republicans who won't vote for Trump, and will vote for Hillary.

New poll this morning shows Hillary up 9 points over Trump in Virginia. That's like the 10th poll in a row from VA that shows Hillary demolishing the liar fraud Trump in my beloved Commonwealth.
Ummmm............................. name them.

Again, every conservative I know HATES Hillary. Further many of the dems I know say that they will never vote for her.
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Hillary is a VERY flawed candidate who has tons of negative baggage. The dems would have been much better off to put up Biden. While Biden certainly has his flaws, there is not a huge cohort who hates him.


Or Warren-too late though. Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren ticket would be amazing IMO.
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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False. That would describe Trump, not Hillary.
Trump hasn't started lying yet. That will happen in the general election when he has to switch all of his original positions to more moderate positions. That wall will become "What wall?"
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Arlington VA
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Trump hasn't started lying yet. That will happen in the general election when he has to switch all of his original positions to more moderate positions. That wall will become "What wall?"


Then it would be official: Trump will be a worse candidate than Romney--in virtually every attribute category possible.

It's amazing how the GOP never learned their lesson from 2012.
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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Then it would be official: Trump will be a worse candidate than Romney--in virtually every attribute category possible.

It's amazing how the GOP never learned their lesson from 2012.
If you think about it, it's easy to see Trump change his positions because he's all about "winning," not ideology.
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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7. There are MANY demcrats who hate Hillary.
In the most recent national poll, she has a 80/20 favorable/unfavorable rating among Democrats. Sanders has 79/12. So 8% more "hate" her than "hate" him. Big whoop.
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