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Old 03-20-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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The older angry white man should be the symbol of the GOP instead of a bloated elephant.
LOL are you lost in the Democrat party.........just who the hell is running? LOL


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You and the other poster must think Bernie and Hillary are the picture of "the fountain of youth".......thanks for the laugh from both of you!
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:18 AM
 
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The older angry white man should be the symbol of the GOP instead of a bloated elephant.
The ass for the dems is perfect!
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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I am the demographic you are looking. Angry blue collar working class.

Disliked every President in modern times.. They all are pawns to big money banker swine.
Last good President was trust busting Teddy Roosevelt.

7.3 trillion dollars was stolen from middle class American home owners under Bush and Obama. Yes I feel. Betrayed and I am mad at the Establishment! Many working class Americans are far worse off today than in The past.

I am 100% supporter of Bernie. I am even one of those small $5 contributors.

Ever wonder about those polls where Trump wins against Hillary, but not Bernie.?

This is an anti Establishment vote for me. So if Bernie is not on the presidental ticket then I will be forced to vote for Trump!! (He is doing a great job of turning the Establishment upside down!

At least Trump is anti GMO, unlike Obama or Clinton.

So Bernie or Bust!

The Establishment is going down one way or another...

Oh, by the way.. Unless you raise a family on a couple of $13 an hour jobs with no. Benifits, and lost 50% of your net worth in the housing bubble, because some greedy fat Goldman Sachs pigs gambled with the peoples money doing sub prime lending, you can put a cork in it, about the angry working class blue collar male.

By the way this has nothing to do with color or gender. It is 100% about income disparity! GET THAT?

So what do you pay your daycare worker?
What do you pay your lawyers?

See your problem?

If not you are the enemy.

Don't care about gender, color or Creed. The .majority of the crap spewed is about keeping the sheep divided..

Last edited by TrueTimbers; 03-20-2016 at 08:33 AM..
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Could it possibly be that white males are more likely to be Republican or to perceive the Republican Party as best forwarding their interests? Obama did poorly among white males as did Bill Clinton. This isn't rocket science people.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Only an idiot would support a candidate and party that constantly attacks you, accuses you of crimes you didn't commit and tries to take what you earned and give it to someone who didn't. That explains why so many liberal men support both.
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Old 03-20-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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Could it possibly be that white males are more likely to be Republican or to perceive the Republican Party as best forwarding their interests? Obama did poorly among white males as did Bill Clinton. This isn't rocket science people.
And that's why the GOP needed Cruz or Rubio(especially him) because then they'd be able to transcend racial and gender lines, grab a large share of Latino voters(40-50%) and more share of women voters and be able to win the election that way.

Trump only really appeals to white males in large margins. No one else and that's surely not enough to win the general. White women, blacks, Latinos, and Asians are all going to flock to Clinton in the general which will set up a large win.

If you look at how Obama won 2012, look at the demographics, than look at who Trump appeals, it's obvious why the polls at the moment are showing a landslide loss for him. Obama had a white male problem and still won in comfortable margins and Mitt will have likely gotten more of the Hispanic/Latino, white women, Asian vote than Trump will get.

Trump supporters are setting themselves up for a very disappointing November.
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Old 03-20-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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The Times report on the Democratic campaign and its uneasy relationship with whites, especially white men.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/18...white-men.html

I'm not a white man. I'd like to know the perspectives of white men here toward Hilary and the Democratic Party in general.
Hillary is doing well among white collar white men, but not the blue collar white men!
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:18 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I am the demographic you are looking. Angry blue collar working class.

Disliked every President in modern times.. They all are pawns to big money banker swine.
Last good President was trust busting Teddy Roosevelt.

7.3 trillion dollars was stolen from middle class American home owners under Bush and Obama. Yes I feel. Betrayed and I am mad at the Establishment! Many working class Americans are far worse off today than in The past.

I am 100% supporter of Bernie. I am even one of those small $5 contributors.

Ever wonder about those polls where Trump wins against Hillary, but not Bernie.?

This is an anti Establishment vote for me. So if Bernie is not on the presidental ticket then I will be forced to vote for Trump!! (He is doing a great job of turning the Establishment upside down!

At least Trump is anti GMO, unlike Obama or Clinton.

So Bernie or Bust!

The Establishment is going down one way or another...

Oh, by the way.. Unless you raise a family on a couple of $13 an hour jobs with no. Benifits, and lost 50% of your net worth in the housing bubble, because some greedy fat Goldman Sachs pigs gambled with the peoples money doing sub prime lending, you can put a cork in it, about the angry working class blue collar male.

By the way this has nothing to do with color or gender. It is 100% about income disparity! GET THAT?

So what do you pay your daycare worker?
What do you pay your lawyers?

See your problem?

If not you are the enemy.

Don't care about gender, color or Creed. The .majority of the crap spewed is about keeping the sheep divided..
Yes, most of us get income inquality. Especially Bernie. Are you aware that Trump doesn't ever want the minimum wage to go above 7.25? That he thinks that American workers are paid too much? That climate change is a hoax? That's he a free trader?


Trump and Bernie are the complete opposites.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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Yes, most of us get income inquality. Especially Bernie. Are you aware that Trump doesn't ever want the minimum wage to go above 7.25? That he thinks that American workers are paid too much? That climate change is a hoax? That's he a free trader?


Trump and Bernie are the complete opposites.
I am aware of that.. But being an idealist Socialist, or Utopian Libertarian it is OK.. Many common points. Both are the only anti Monsanto anti Genetically Modified Food candidates (being,.an organic farmer that's huge). Both are not big on religion,.(me being estranged from.the Republican party when the Religious right took over)... Both are firmly a thorn in the side of.the Establishment neither take much.money from the fat.wallstreet pig./PACS...

So I see as.much in common as different..

For me #$&@ the system is my number one priority. Trump is good at making waves..

I want the status qou to go down, and feel when you combine Trump and Sanders supporters,.I am in the majority in a huge way..

political revolution... Hehehe
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I am also an older White man and a strong supporter of Senator Sanders. I do not support Secretary Hillary because she is part of the problem. Just as JEB Bush led the ruling segment of the Republican party, Hillary leads the ruling segment of the Democratic party.

The Republican leaders are and were only concerned with protecting the Wealthy Aristocracy are using a corrupt system of businesses (Crony Capitalism) to subvert the market for their benefit at the extreme cost to the working people of the US and the World. They fixed the game and they want desperately to keep the game fixed. The Donald is just as concerned with keeping his privilege but hides it far more effectively.

The Democratic party is dominated by a different set of the same group Wealthy Aristocrats with the same need to preserve the system they use to enhance and protect their wealth and social status. These Aristocrats are aided by a strong group of academics that specialize in creating social programs that serve to give false hope to the folks categorically excluded from the Republican party. Between the aristocrats and the Academic BS artists the poor and workers do not get or should expect very much from the Clinton dominated Democratic party.


Senator Sanders is neither a Wealthy Aristocrat or a Social Sciences (?) academic. He is somebody that has realized the system is rigged been speaking against the corruption that infests both parties and the economy. By limiting his criticism against just the "billionaire class" he is missing the academic snobbery infesting his party. We have to revise the system so it works for us.

I agree with True Timbers ideas. We, as an economic class, have been swindled by the existing aristocrats of both parties. The extreme differential between the bottom 40% and the top 10% is not an accident of economics but the result of a carefully executed plan done by the leaders of both political parties.

We need a political and economic revolution that will help the poor by providing opportunity for economic advancement, the middle class by expanding industrial employment and pay for these by taxing the top 10% enough to return the money they took by rigging the system.
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