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So what's it going to be for Sanders win loose or draw from here on out, Democrat or Independent? If Sanders secures the nomination is he going to be a champion for the Party's candidates as the is the role of the Party's presidential nominee? Will be act as the titular head of the Democratic National Committee if elected president as is the role of the President nominated by the Democratic Party?
Or, if he loses the nomination or the election...
Will Sanders remain a Democrat, continue to push for change but from within the Party through as a senior Senator and automatic member of the DNC. Or will Sanders simply become just another quadrennial opportunist who will ride Democratic discontent and then just walk away as a so-called independent? Will Sanders be another Jessie Jackson or an Elizabeth Warren who entered the fight as a Democrat and has fought for progressive policies within the Party itself?
Sanders said that he would endorse Clinton if she met his very strict demands
Because of the nature of these requirements, it is unlikely that Clinton would agree to them and therefore unlikely that Sanders would actually support her as the nominee.
So if Hillary clinton is a true Democrat, sanders is not. If sanders is a true liberal democrat, then Hillary is not. You make the decision yourself.
So what's it going to be for Sanders win loose or draw from here on out, Democrat or Independent? If Sanders secures the nomination is he going to be a champion for the Party's candidates as the is the role of the Party's presidential nominee? Will be act as the titular head of the Democratic National Committee if elected president as is the role of the President nominated by the Democratic Party?
Or, if he loses the nomination or the election...
Will Sanders remain a Democrat, continue to push for change but from within the Party through as a senior Senator and automatic member of the DNC. Or will Sanders simply become just another quadrennial opportunist who will ride Democratic discontent and then just walk away as a so-called independent? Will Sanders be another Jessie Jackson or an Elizabeth Warren who entered the fight as a Democrat and has fought for progressive policies within the Party itself?
From observing from the outside, I have been watching Sanders on various talkshows for over 3 years. During that time he was labeled an Independent. He does caucus with the Democrats and IIRC his voting record is actually 90's % with them.
So, his run as Candidate for President has been good for the Democratic Party since it has pulled Hillary further left than she would have if he had not been in the race. I actually think IF Elizabeth Warren had thrown her skirt into the ring, the same thing would have happened given her views on "Rigged Economy" !
But, I do believe he will support Hillary IF she happens to get the nomination. Lets remember the contentiousness between Hillary and BO and SHE ended up actually not only supported but stumped for him in the general election.
I've always considered, in American 2 party System, the Independent label gets a bad rap because no matter which party..I think there are Independent (or at least recall there were Independent Republicans as well) Politicians who caucus with the party they "Mostly" reflect, but have some alternate leanings on some issues.
Anyway..my answer isssss~ Yes, he will support Democratic nominee
You see that's the problem and the basis of my cynicism about Sanders who I philosophically agree with although not so much from a pragmatic point of view. In many ways Sanders and Trump are not so dissimilar. They have put themselves before political organizations to lead great revolutions in the present political "status quo." Sanders calls for a revolution, but revolutions are not accomplished in a single electoral cycle, and they certainly aren't accomplished by individuals.
Ronald Reagan, understood this even in his loss, Reagan remained in his party and build a coalition that in time ushered in his strategy for a national agenda, and it is should be embarrassing for any so-called socialist revolutionary to be so oblivious of that fact.
Whether Sanders endorses Hillary or not isn't my concern, rather what is Sanders going to do to advance liberal and progressive Democratic candidates to held enact his proposals. Alluding to some sort of spontaneous appearance of supporters who by the force of their numbers will bring recalcitrant Republicans in re-election state districts is senile fantasy.
If Sanders isn't willing to do the grunt work of transforming the Democratic Party into a Democratic socialist ideal, then he no less a charlatan than Trump and the why I am increasingly souring on Sen Sanders in a very negative way.
Strong words. Charlatan, senile. This from a candidate who is "sick of the damn e-mails" and is talking about the mid-term elections every chance he gets. Sanders has been great for the party, has brought huge numbers of independents to vote for him and has galvanized support among the people under 40 where he leads heavily over Clinton. This is the future of the party after all.
So, his run as Candidate for President has been good for the Democratic Party since it has pulled Hillary further left than she would have if he had not been in the race.
I agree to a point. I think that recently that Sanders gotten a bad case of victory fever and as a result the tenor of his campaign is responsible for a certain cult of the personalty ingredient to his campaign fostering the Sanders of nothing mentality of within his supporters, which makes is possible future endorsement of Clinton pointless. This by no means is to suggest that Sanders should withdraw from the campaign, but in my mind has a responsibility to leave his most ardent supporters so disappointed and frustrated that they drop out of the process.
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I actually think IF Elizabeth Warren had thrown her skirt into the ring, the same thing would have happened given her views on "Rigged Economy"
There is a fundamental difference between Warren and Sanders as I mentioned previously. Warren is dedicated to pushing a progressive agenda within the Party. That dedication builds a genuine progressive movement within the Democratic party without bring harm to it.
Frankly this is the same argument that I made in 2008 when quite a few Democrats, particularly women, were so dedicated to Clinton's campaign it became an issue of Hillary or nothing. Fortunately, Hillary, as a dedicated Democrat, put her shoulder to the wheel and supported Obama despite his role as as the upstart that derailed her candidacy. She stayed within the Party, became part of the administration and continued to build both the party and her candidacy. That is Sander's challenge should he lose the nomination.
The two parties have abandoned any semblance of representing/offering 2 differing ideological views which the electorate can choose from when it comes to defining national policy.
At this point, both of them are two branches of corporate representation.
If we can do do something like offer two legitimate parties which represent the electorate, then calling Sanders the true Progressive Democrat would be a start.
The "parties" choose their corporate figure heads, have been doing it for a while now.
This is what I see and believe.
The figurative tomato--throwing at my opinion may now commence
The two parties have abandoned any semblance of representing/offering 2 differing ideological views which the electorate can choose from when it comes to defining national policy.
We have clearly inhabited two different universes over the last seven years.
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