Bernie will end up winning same # of States as Hillary (health care system, Congress)

[RunD1987]

Originally Posted by dexter75

Not possible. It only has 93k seats and I believe LAFD won't allow more than 7k seats on the field. So 100k would be the max and I'd have to see that to believe it.

Supposedly they say it's $25,000 to rent out and can hold 130,000 people. That it is available June 3rd to be rented out there is the idea of a GoFundMe page being started to cover the fee.

[justNancy]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

Sanders has the momentum and can win more voters due to him have a larger pool of Independent voters. The Democrats are in quite the conundrum.

Though with the issue's and changes to California Primary can see a lot of Independent Sander voter's not voting and giving the Hillary the win again, similiar to NY State.

What changes are you talking about? This is what is written on Bernie's website. If something has changed, let me know. New York was different because registered voters couldn't change their parties after Oct. However, new voters had until March 25 to register.

REGISTER BY MAY 23 (MONDAY)
Register as a democrat or undeclared by:
Mon, May 23
California allows “No Party Preference” voters to vote in the Democratic primary, but that is different from “Independent” – Ensure you are registered either as a Democrat, “No Party Preference”, “Undeclared”, “Unaffiliated”, or some variation thereof.

When voting, be sure to ask for the Democratic ballot if you want to vote for Bernie!

Okay, so what's the big deal here? As in many other closed or semi-closed primaries, if someone wants to vote for Bernie Sanders, all he has to do is register as a Democrat, right? Many states allow voters to change parties within 30 days of an election.

I simply don't understand the fuss. If I'm wrong, then please correct me. Bernie Sanders is running as a Democrat. He chose to run as a Democrat. He knew the rules when he announced his candidacy. The primary is to choose a candidate for the party. This is the first time I can remember (and I've been voting for over 40 years) that any other candidate complained so much about the primary process. When Bernie loses it's because the state is in the South, it's a closed primary or blah, blah, blah.... When he wins, even if it's a caucus in which a huge number of voters can't participate, then everything is fair and square.

[RunD1987]

There is people in California still believing it's closed, receiving NPP ballots with no candiates on the ballot, and some are registering over. Very confusing information floating around what is what.

Don't know how it is in Cali, but pretty easy here you go online 3 months in advance plug your information into the database. Two weeks later your a dem.

[PCALMike]

Originally Posted by artillery77

The west coast will be interesting, but I really don't understand how you have Bernie winning in the Dakotas and Montana. They're not exactly socialist friendly states.

This was the argument by the talking heads on big business media 6 months ago. Times and goalposts have changed. He is expected to do great in these states, just like he did in Idaho, Utah, Nebraska, Oklahoma etc etc.

Btw, Bernie's socialism is an economy and government that works for everyone, not just the big money special interests. Not Stalin 2.0. Bernie's socialism is like FDR or Truman's socialism. It resonates very well with the people.

[RunD1987]

Bernie is not a socialist. He's a Democratic Socialist

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by WaldoKitty

I have already proven that it is not.

No you didnt. Saying it isnt when you can easily google the fact that some republicans states are winner take all once you pass a certain thresh hold and not a single Democratic state is , proves just how feeble your argument is.

Originally Posted by WaldoKitty

The original claim was that it was solely due to population. That point was proved wrong.

The original claim was simplistic and honestly, I thought you would be able to figure it out, but I was wrong. Frankly, your post seem to be more about arguing than actually debating a subject, this post being a great example of it.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by PCALMike

Nope, Sanders is polling better in these states against Trump because he does better among the swing voters. Dem primary voters are not the same as general election voters. Hillary does great among loyal elderly democrats and African Americans, two groups that overwhelmingly support the dem nominee. Sanders does better among swing voters like independents, people under 40 and the white working class. Sanders not only get the democratic voters in a general election but also polls much better among independents in these states overall.

Or maybe your theory is way off base and Sanders polls better because he has not been attacked, not ONCE. If he were to get the nomination Trump would chew him up and spit him out looking like a cross between Saul Alinsky and Leon Trotsky.

[RunD1987]

Trump vs Sanders it be a historic election. The debates would resonate through history.

[dexter75]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

Trump vs Sanders it be a historic election. The debates would resonate through history.

The crony capitalist vs the socialist. Two things that have destroyed many countries. It would be historically awful and destroy this country.

[PCALMike]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Or maybe your theory is way off base and Sanders polls better because he has not been attacked, not ONCE. If he were to get the nomination Trump would chew him up and spit him out looking like a cross between Saul Alinsky and Leon Trotsky.

Of course he has been attacked. His policies are to the right of Franklin D Roosevelt, yet that wont stop you from your absurd hyperbole. I remember the Hillarybots also used this absurd fear mongering if Obama was nominated. Just admit it. You hate social democracy.

But the discussion was whether Hillary is the better candidate in swing states because she won the loyal democrats in the swing states (African Americans, lifelong Democrats etc).