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Old 06-14-2016, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Trump killed it. Wont be surprised if he's leading in the polls by the end of the week.
Would like to see you right, but it isn't going to happen and if it does it could be short lived. We are still dealing with the number of people who blame the attack on guns, not terrorists and the lead Clinton has with the LGBT group. Add to all this, most Americans do not want to totally close borders to Muslims and where he got the idea or he just misread the teleprompter, whatever the gun man was not born in another country.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Renton - Fairwood, Washington
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We are still dealing with the number of people who blame the attack on guns, not terrorists
Unfortunately there's a whole lot of stupid in this country.







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Add to all this, most Americans do not want to totally close borders to Muslims
I saw Killary saying in a speech that the vast majority of Muslims were peace loving so ( Trump) was a bigot to suggest we stop Islamic immigration. If only 1 /10 of 1% of the next Million Islamics to enter our country are terrorist inclined , we got it made because that's only 1000 of them to attack us in one of our ultra-safe " gun free " zones . Sure makes me feel safer when I look at the numbers that way . Are people stupid enough to buy into Killary's BS ? Her statements might actually backfire on her.

I feel safer with a Republican President... he doesn't refer to people who want closed borders as "bigots."
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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We know what they do and we are well aware of their motivation, stating those words accomplishes nothing. Both the Bush and Obama administration are well aware of the impact of those words. Muslims have come out and condemned these attackers as not being part of their religion, there is no point. So what does stating the words "radical Islam" accomplish, does it give us new insight into a strategy.
The point is that it distinguishes radical Muslims from the rest. You don't want people lumping them all together do you? I'll never understand this about leftists that want to protect Muslims. How do you do that without calling out the bad ones to distinguish them from the rest. Muslim world leaders have no problem doing this. Obviously peace loving Muslims like King Hussein of Jordan has no issue with calling them radicalized Muslims, then why should you?
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Unfortunately there's a whole lot of stupid in this country.









I saw Killary saying in a speech that the vast majority of Muslims were peace loving so ( Trump) was a bigot to suggest we stop Islamic immigration. If only 1 /10 of 1% of the next Million Islamics to enter our country are terrorist inclined , we got it made because that's only 1000 of them to attack us in one of our ultra-safe " gun free " zones . Sure makes me feel safer when I look at the numbers that way . Are people stupid enough to buy into Killary's BS ? Her statements might actually backfire on her.

I feel safer with a Republican President... he doesn't refer to people who want closed borders as "bigots."
How many Americans have been killed by Muslim terrorists in the last decade.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The point is that it distinguishes radical Muslims from the rest. You don't want people lumping them all together do you? I'll never understand this about leftists that want to protect Muslims. How do you do that without calling out the bad ones to distinguish them from the rest. Muslim world leaders have no problem doing this. Obviously peace loving Muslims like King Hussein of Jordan has no issue with calling them radicalized Muslims, then why should you?
Distinguishes, you mean we didn't know already that there are terrorists that attack us based on a fanatical extremist interpretation of Islam. Boy that really helps us along, now we're in business.


It's not about "protecting" anyone, it's about building alliances to defeat these terrorists. Trumps words don't help us to that end, quite the opposite. His rhetoric is used as a recruitment tool.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Renton - Fairwood, Washington
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How many Americans have been killed by Muslim terrorists in the last decade.
Not as many as those killed by non-Muslim Americans which is all the more reason to keep the doors open to immigration?
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:32 AM
 
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Not as many as those killed by non-Muslim Americans which is all the more reason to keep the doors open to immigration?
Yes of course, we don't already have enough people killing eachother in this country, so why not add radical Muslims in too so they can join the party? I'm sure that's the right thing to do in order to be fair.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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That was a new low level for even Trump, I think he is heading back into Birther land or maybe he never left.


After Orlando Shooting, What Donald Trump Meant When He Said Obama Has 'Something Else In Mind' : NPR
He for sure is heading back to birtherland and his former champion, Joe Scarborough, said that accusing Obama of being connected to the terrorists is another 'disqualifying' comment.


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We know what they do and we are well aware of their motivation, stating those words accomplishes nothing. Both the Bush and Obama administration are well aware of the impact of those words. Muslims have come out and condemned these attackers as not being part of their religion, there is no point. So what does stating the words "radical Islam" accomplish, does it give us new insight into a strategy.
You know, it's like if you utter the words 'radical Islam" then magically all the problems will solve themselves. They really believe that.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:45 AM
 
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Distinguishes, you mean we didn't know already that there are terrorists that attack us based on a fanatical extremist interpretation of Islam. Boy that really helps us along, now we're in business.


It's not about "protecting" anyone, it's about building alliances to defeat these terrorists. Trumps words don't help us to that end, quite the opposite. His rhetoric is used as a recruitment tool.
Of course, like they need a recruitment tool. What a joke!
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Old 06-14-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Of course, like they need a recruitment tool. What a joke!
Sadly it's not a joke.

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Former NSA and CIA Director Michael Hayden agrees that Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump could be described as a recruiting sergeant for the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIL).
"You don't have to be president ... to have already made Americans less safe," Hayden says.
Ex-CIA director: Trump a recruiting sergeant for ISIL - Al Jazeera English
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