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The "democrats" I spoke of were the majority of voters in NYC since most NYers are registered Democrats.
Yes, democrats rule in NY politics. True.
But the point is there's a mass exodus going on out of NY....the democrat utopia you speak of is not reality. If it was so well run, why are so many people fleeing?
Let's be fair: they were about New York State, not New York City ... which happens to be growing in population - or didn't you know?
Bloomberg was mayor of New York City.
Other towns in the state are losing population, like Buffalo for example.
The city of New York is in fact booming! Do you have any idea how many tens of BILLIONS of dollars in construction is going on right now in Manhattan alone? Want to know? Look up these projects: * Hudson Yards* (a collection of supertall skyscrapers that is the biggest and most expensive construction project the the entire history of the US), or the *Verre* Tower, or recently completed 432 Park Avenue - tallest residential tower in the world - taller than the Empire State Building (where apartments go from $3.5 million to over $40 million!), not to mention World Trade Center towers #3 and #4, etc. etc. ad infinitum.
I visit NYC about every other month and I am astonished by the construction going on there. If you haven't been there recently you have no idea.
But the point is there's a mass exodus going on out of NY....the democrat utopia you speak of is not reality.
I never said it was a utopia but yes, it does attract the best and the brightest. It's the land of competiton therefore Trump is not popular with these people because they are not mediocre and bitter, in general. Maybe 30 years later they will be but no, they will just move so place else. Trump's movement is about a mindset and negative world view. Optimistic people don't NEED to follow a wannabe dictator.
Let's be fair: they were about New York State, not New York City ... which happens to be growing in population - or didn't you know?
Bloomberg was mayor of New York City.
Other towns in the state are losing population, like Buffalo for example.
The city of New York is in fact booming! Do you have any idea how many tens of BILLIONS of dollars in construction is going on right now in Manhattan alone? Want to know? Look up these projects: * Hudson Yards* (a collection of supertall skyscrapers that is the biggest and most expensive construction project the the entire history of the US), or the *Verre* Tower, or recently completed 432 Park Avenue - tallest residential tower in the world - taller than the Empire State Building (where apartments go from $3.5 million to over $40 million!), not to mention World Trade Center towers #3 and #4, etc. etc. ad infinitum.
I visit NYC about every other month and I am astonished by the construction going on there. If you haven't been there recently you have no idea.
Got ya. I was looking at the bigger picture of New York state.
I see NYC as San Fran.....if you have lots of money/rich, you'll do well. The vast majority of people who are middle class and below, it's not a paradise/too expensive. I know NYC well, visited often, and have friends and family who live nearby. Even the "cheap" burroughs are getting expensive now.
Much of the growth isn't from people wanting to move to NYC but from a higher birth rate:
"“What's happened, and what I think really turned it around, and what's driving the population is the large number of births,” said Andrew Beveridge, a demographer and a professor of sociology at Queens College."
And given this statement plus NY is on it's way to dropping again in total population(from 3rd to 4th most populated), that still doesn't bode well for NYC/the entire state as a whole on many levels.
"“Except for Albany and Saratoga and one other county up north, there's really no growth at all. In fact, population loss in New York State,” Beveridge said"
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Originally Posted by Yankeemama
I never said it was a utopia but yes, it does attract the best and the brightest. It's the land of competiton therefore Trump is not popular with these people because they are not mediocre and bitter, in general. Maybe 30 years later they will be but no, they will just move so place else. Trump's movement is about a mindset and negative world view. Optimistic people don't NEED to follow a wannabe dictator.
The best and the brightest are moving to the 21st century growth areas in the sunbelt states. NYC is too expensive for most middle class and below to live a quality life. Ironically, given this is a democrat stronghold, would think they'd do more to make it a middle class and below haven, not one for largely the rich, ie "the best and the brightest".
Yep. I've spent time in NYC under all 3 administrations, and DeBlasio = when compared to either Bloomberg or Guiliani. I also remember what NYC looked like toward the end of Jimmy Carter's term as POTUS......
That was Ed Koch and he was a three term mayor . He was a pretty good mayor until David Dinkins came into office .
[quote=Yankeemama;44947498]Bloomberg is not a real Republican as you well know. And Guliani is a fascist and just "moved" the homeless problem so NYC Disney doesn't SEE the homeless of NYC. Sure the streets are cleaned up but NYC is pretty sterile and transplants have taken over the city and they RUN NYC. So yes, the best and brightest from all over the world are attracted to NYC because of the opportunities it presents. Generally the best and brightest are Democrats and believe in meritocracy. Too bad the Reoublican NYers aren't that competitive and are tempted by Trumpy. Trumpy is selling false security to bitter people.[/QUOTEi
You are preaching to the choir as an ex Democrat nor am I a Republican so keep your insults to yourself . Please be my guest in voting for the brightest Democratic candidate Hilabeast Her resume speaks volumes corruption , lies , incompetence of Sec. State . Shading land purchases in Arkansas the list goes on .
NY is on it's way to dropping again in total population(from 3rd to 4th most populated), that still doesn't bode well for NYC/the entire state as a whole on many levels.
The State of New York ranked 3rd in population after the 2010 Census, but....dropping in rank as you surmised.....by the Census Bureau's own July 1, 2015 estimate, the State of New York had already dropped to 4th in population.
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when compared to either Bloomberg or Guiliani. I also remember what NYC looked like toward the end of Jimmy Carter's term as POTUS.....
Her resume speaks volumes corruption , lies , incompetence of Sec. State . Shading land purchases in Arkansas the list goes on .
