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Originally Posted by Prickly Pear
It's hard to support someone who rigged your election and disenfranchised you to *********r vote into almost HAVING to support her.
The emails proved it.
If you were a Sanders supporter and you vote for $hill you are a sellout and never was about the Revolution. I don't care if he endorsed her. She was literally the textbook definition of everything he was against. He used her name in saying what he was against. If you vote for Hillary you were never about his movement. You were just riding the wave. And I won't succumb to fear mongering from Benghazi supporters just to keep Trump out. If I want change then I will vote for it, not for the same old crap that got us killing hundreds of brothers and sisters fighting in the ME along with the killing of ME children, not for the people who claim to give us jobs but then pull the rug right out from under our feet from trade deals like NAFTA (by the way, who was the buffed supporter of Nafta? And then after it got bad press changed their mind, and now is recycling into that mindset with the TPP?), etc.
You can't claim to be for something and then vote for the antonym of what that is. Definition of a hypocrite and a sellout.
If you want real change to our politics, then vote for that change, and that is third parties. Only third parties can bring change, not the same old paid-off and lobbied politicians who say the same crap every four years to get elected only to do the same old crap as the last.
And if you decide not to vote this election cycle?
I bet 30%-40% of Bernie supporters just stay home on election day.
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Fine. As long as they don't vote for trump (and almost no bernie supporters will), that won't be an issue.
They can sync up the video from Wizard of Oz with the audio from Dark Side of the Moon and partake in the recreational whatever and have a "good time" without leaving the sofa. The next day when they wake up at noon, Clinton and Kaine will have already won in an electoral college landslide.
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Originally Posted by emanresu1
Fine. As long as they don't vote for trump (and almost no bernie supporters will), that won't be an issue.
They can sync up the video from Wizard of Oz with the audio from Dark Side of the Moon and partake in the recreational whatever and have a "good time" without leaving the sofa. The next day when they wake up at noon, Clinton and Kaine will have already won in an electoral college landslide.
Again why are you so fixated on Bernie supporters now. you said we have no power and that you have won the election. Ok. So why are you still bringing this up. Are you just trying to antagonize just to make yourself feel better, superior, or something like that.
It just shows The board your as much as a d-bag as the people your complaining about....You know that right? So why not quit now. And enjoy your victory. Remember in 4 years,most likely, your not going to have the Supreme Court in play. So creating hard feeling at this point is an idiots move.
And if you decide not to vote this election cycle?
You support the lack of change or initiative in the American populace to try to change politics into something that works in our favor. Obviously if you don't vote you have no issue with the way things are running otherwise you'd try to change it. In my humble opinion if you don't vote you don't have the ground to stand on to complain about the next President because you did nothing to try to stop them getting elected.
You support the lack of change or initiative in the American populace to try to change politics into something that works in our favor. Obviously if you don't vote you have no issue with the way things are running otherwise you'd try to change it. In my humble opinion if you don't vote you don't have the ground to stand on to complain about the next President because you did nothing to try to stop them getting elected.
If there is no one you like or feel you can support, then there just isn't. This isn't the same as being ambivalent or not caring at all.
I'm a Sanders Supporter and I'm voting for Gary Johnson because the Democrats can't take my vote for granted.
From various videos I saw about the Bernie or Busters at the DNC. Hillary lost almost half of the Bernie supporters. And she needs those votes badly. Considering how close this election is.
Well, that is certainly no surprise. If you were a Bernie supporter and you're going to Trump, then you probably didn't have much of a real rational opinion rooted in anything Bernie stood for to begin with.
It depends on why they went for Bernie in the first place. If it had to do with avoiding Hillary because of her ethics, morals, respect for our country, etc., I don't see why they would vote for her. Add to that, most that supported Bernie are not "hawks" like Hillary and support "green" power and Hillary is owned by the Middle Eastern oil producers. Yeah, big divide there.
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Originally Posted by jacqueg
No kidding.
I'm absolutely mystified that anyone thinks that a person who supports a democratic socialist would turn around and vote for a classic capitalist.
Especially when that democratic socialist said over and over that defeating the capitalist was the most important thing in this election.
That democratic socialist also said that Hillary was not qualified to be POTUS.
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Originally Posted by xray731
I voted for Bernie - now it's going to Trump.
To me, that makes sense. I am Trump supporter but if, say Cruz, would have gotten the nomination, and Bernie was the Dem nominee, I would have crossed over to vote for Bernie. I was really anxious to see Trump debate Sanders, someone that wouldn't play a "gender" card.
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Originally Posted by Emerald Forest
The media pulling all the stops, wishful thnking, and doing all it can to create perception to persuade voters to back Hillary
It will only sell to sheeple and if Bernie's supporters were sheeple in the first place, they would not have been Bernie supporters.
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Originally Posted by stburr91
I bet 30%-40% of Bernie supporters just stay home on election day.
There is no reason to believe that young people that aren't long time Democrats are going to go out and vote of a candidate like Hillary, that that can't stand, and is the very type of politician that they want out of politics.
I saw the stats on that. Many were to be first time voters and with the slap in the face they got by the Democratic Party, I'd sit it out.
The issue is, the election isn't today. Hillary just got her last bump. "Going down Mrs. Clinton."
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough
"According to reliable sources...''
The Wash Post. RIGHT!
I picked up on that right away. They use what they have to in hopes of persuading people who can't think for themselves to help Hillary bear her cross, the lies and corruption, and move toward the WH.
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Originally Posted by VTHokieFan
You won't get 90%, but you need 90%. Most Sanders supporters I know we're never registered Democrats.
Why Clinton Might Have A Tough Time Flipping The Sanders Holdouts | FiveThirtyEight I think many will sit it out after seeing how corrupt the system was. Some of his supporters worked so hard only to have him break a promise and not stay in through the convention. I don't blame him as I just think he was probably threatened or maybe a loved one. The Clintons are ruthless.
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Originally Posted by emanresu1
Unlike Clinton, Trump didn't get 50% of the republican vote in the primaries. And now R's are jumping ship as fast as they can.
How many times do we have to do the math on this. Clinton split with one other person and had to cheat at that. Trump had 17. This is division, we learned it in 4th grade. Surely everyone here went at least that far in school!
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Originally Posted by hipcat
I'm a Sanders Supporter and I'm voting for Gary Johnson because the Democrats can't take my vote for granted.
From various videos I saw about the Bernie or Busters at the DNC. Hillary lost almost half of the Bernie supporters. And she needs those votes badly. Considering how close this election is.
She seems to take winning for granted in general. Almost like she knows something we don't.
I am hoping that we have teams that will go to the polling areas to observe. I would certainly volunteer to do that. I know when my son was in Afghanistan, being in security, he took his troops to the polling places to assure "fair" elections. We need that here.
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Originally Posted by Prickly Pear
You support the lack of change or initiative in the American populace to try to change politics into something that works in our favor. Obviously if you don't vote you have no issue with the way things are running otherwise you'd try to change it. In my humble opinion if you don't vote you don't have the ground to stand on to complain about the next President because you did nothing to try to stop them getting elected.
Well. I waiting for in my case for 3rd parties to start running for house seats and gaining a power base from which draw from. From my pov just aiming for the top spot is not nearly enough to change actually things. And just voting to vote against some one/something is not a good reason to do it.
I would be more than happy to vote for third-party candidate (mostly likely green) if they were running for house seat or senate seat. It would show that in this particular case the Green party was trying to actually build power base To challenge the establishment. And hopefully over time you gain enough seats (power) to actually have the power to change things at all levels of government. Including the presidency.
And for complaining. Well I wouldn't be complaining here on this site. I would be complaining to my representatives in the house to hopefully move them towards an agenda that fits what I want. maybe it would be successful maybe wouldn't. But if it bothers me enough that's the way I would handle it for the most part. And of course there's always the option to sue. I know people call baseball the national past time. But I find that to be false. The national past time is suing other people, institutions, and government at all levels. That is also another option that's on the table.
Over 90% of unwavering Sanders supporters will back Hillary Clinton[/font]
That may be a fine point but an accurate one nonetheless.
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