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Old 09-02-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Fair enough, fair enough.

But when I look at my options come Nov. 8th, I won't hesitate one moment to pull the lever for HRC. The other option is too horrid a fate for our nation to contemplate.
Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit A for why I feel it's beyond obvious why our country continues to be lead by inept/lying/bought off/false promising politicians. The true enablers of it all.

Unreal.
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Old 09-02-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit A for why I feel it's beyond obvious why our country continues to be lead by inept/lying/bought off politicians. The true enablers of it all.

Unreal.
you think Trump is a better choice? The guy who's going to build a 1700 mile wall that's "solid, strong and beautiful" and give the entire Rio Grande River and all it's water to the Mexican government in the process? The guy that has sworn to make our third largest trading partner pay for a wall built on american soil while he slaps a 35% tariff on all their goods? The guy who wants to scrap NATO and kiss russian azz as US policy? You think this is a good option?
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Old 09-02-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: SC
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Yes. That is what he is saying. But that shouldn't surprise you. She can do whatever she wants and as long as she uses slippery language, and the aid of her political allies, her minions will just minimize it and laugh it off.
Thank you, but I prefer that you not try to answer for me.

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So you are good with a POTUS who we now know "frequently lost" devices with top secret information on them?
From my days handling classified materials I know that nothing that is "that" important is carried in such easy to "steal" or "lose" manor. It does not concern me.
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Old 09-02-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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Fair enough, fair enough.

But when I look at my options come Nov. 8th, I won't hesitate one moment to pull the lever for HRC. The other option is too horrid a fate for our nation to contemplate.
I would never tell someone who to vote for but I feel the same as you in a certain light, I will not hesitate to cast my vote as you won't either, my vote however will not be for a known danger like Clinton or Trump. I'll very happily vote for Gary Johnson.
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Old 09-02-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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Thank you, but I prefer that you not try to answer for me.



From my days handling classified materials I know that nothing that is "that" important is carried in such easy to "steal" or "lose" manor. It does not concern me.
The FBI has already proven that classified information is/was on her devices that were carried around and lost. Sorry if I'm going to have to take their word for it over yours.
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Old 09-02-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I would never tell someone who to vote for but I feel the same as you in a certain light, I will not hesitate to cast my vote as you won't either, my vote however will not be for a known danger like Clinton or Trump. I'll very happily vote for Gary Johnson.
Probably the best choice when all is said and done but meaningless in the overall scheme of things, IMO. either Trump or Clinton will be president, that much is certain. Given the choice, Clinton is the better one IMO.
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Old 09-02-2016, 02:00 PM
 
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Probably the best choice when all is said and done but meaningless in the overall scheme of things, IMO. either Trump or Clinton will be president, that much is certain. Given the choice, Clinton is the better one IMO.
Well, not meaningless in terms of my vote as far as I'm concerned. My one vote won't swing the election, however it will do two things:

1. Withhold any appearance of even the smallest hint of approval for the psychopath Clinton or Trump, the last thing we need to do is cast a vote of approval to give them (or worse yet, future candidates) the idea that these actions can be accepted by the American public.

2. If Gary Johnson gets 5% of the popular vote (ie. electoral doesn't matter) then the Libertarian party will be eligible for matching funds in 2020. I am very hopeful that this will get better Libertarian candidates to the table while also giving them the much needed funding to make a better showing in 2020 than they have to date. Its a long road, but I view the 5% popular vote as a big step in helping to get a 3rd party into the conversation. I don't really ever expect them to win the White House at this point, but I do fully expect that if they are at the table in future elections and debates, they WILL change the conversation away from the extreme left/right dichotomy we have now.
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Old 09-02-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: SC
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The FBI has already proven that classified information is/was on her devices that were carried around and lost. Sorry if I'm going to have to take their word for it over yours.
Do that if you like, but you should be aware that there are various levels of classified materials - from "it would be nice not to let anyone know" to "volatile state secrets." Again, as I said, nothing that important would be lost so it does not bother me.

Labels and appearances do not automatically make thing important.

Trump used to have armored cars carry materials to him at his casino. People would be shocked to know that often it was just his lunch.
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Old 09-02-2016, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Well, when you buy the DOJ you can do anything you want. May I present the Democratic Party!
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Old 09-02-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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Do that if you like, but you should be aware that there are various levels of classified materials - from "it would be nice not to let anyone know" to "volatile state secrets." Again, as I said, nothing that important would be lost so it does not bother me.
I'm going to wager that classified information about the CIA drone program falls much closer to the "volatile state secrets" end of that spectrum, especially when talking specifics, especially when they were directed to NEVER talk about this on things other than THE MOST SECURE channels, and especially when she "made up her own code words" to discuss because it was "the holidays" and there was no better way to discuss this. CNN literally just reported that as I was typing this.

LOTS of sketchy and careless activity on her part.
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