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Do the words 'ethics' and 'morals' mean anything at all to you? What difference does it make if Trump was paying-to-play as a private citizen or a federal employee? He was trying to buy influence, broke tax exempt laws doing it and helped give us the disastrous Citizen's United in the process.
There is nothing unethical nor immoral about exercising ones first amendment right..
Do the words 'ethics' and 'morals' mean anything at all to you? What difference does it make if Trump was paying-to-play as a private citizen or a federal employee? He was trying to buy influence, broke tax exempt laws doing it and helped give us the disastrous Citizen's United in the process.
The difference is that as Secretary of State Hillary has a great deal of power to impact all Americans. As a public servant she and all others in that position should be held to the highest of standards. He was trying to buy influence and Hillary was selling.
Guy tries to bribe a cop= Bad
Cop taking bribes = worse.
bilked? how so. weren't signing up for his univ voluntary? i didn't realize they were forced to join.
Holy crap. Do you even read what you type?
If you lie to someone to get them do something it's fraud, even if they signed up "willingly." A person who commits fraud can be sent to jail or fined in a criminal case or sued for damages in a civil case.
Do you really work anywhere close to Wall Street? Where were you in 2007 and 2008.
I used to think your posts made some sense. But between repeatedly referring to Trump as a "family man" and acting this dumb about fraud I think you're not better than .... some of the other Trump supporters.
The difference is that as Secretary of State Hillary has a great deal of power to impact all Americans. As a public servant she and all others in that position should be held to the highest of standards. He was trying to buy influence and Hillary was selling.
Guy tries to bribe a cop= Bad
Cop taking bribes = worse.
Except of course that there is zero actual proof of a single State Department or US policy or action that was changed because of money changing hands. Zero. Just unproven accusations.
Only in your imagination. No credible claims against Clinton Foundation and we have all of their tax returns as well as the Clinton personal tax returns to confirm. Can't say the same for Donnie.
If you want us to believe you actually looked at the tax returns, then I will tell you to your face, I dont believe you.
Except of course that there is zero actual proof of a single State Department or US policy or action that was changed because of money changing hands. Zero. Just unproven accusations.
Weird cause you started the thread babbling some nonsense without any such "proof"..
this has nothing to do with ethics and morals, his only responsibility to himself, his employees and his family is to try and make as much money as possible, is it 'ethical' to leave money on the table? every businessman in this country is looking for an edge, we're all looking for an edge. but, if you're working for ME as a political figure, i'd prefer you not engage in that activity, big difference.
This does have to do with ethics and morals.
He's running for President of the United States, and he's going to be faced with decisions that reflect not only his own ethics and morals, but the ethics and morals of the nation. Ethics and morals aren't something that you set aside when they aren't convenient. If Trump has felt free to operate without ethics and morals, then he is a man without character. Unfit to be President.
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Why couldn't we have just had Bernie, people?
He's honest. Thirty year voting record. No scandals. Voted no on Iraq. Voted yes to fund the veterans. Every single time. Wants to get rid of Nafta and the other so called free trade agreements.
But nooooo, we gotta have this corrupt person, or that corrupt person.
Thanks a bunch, fellow American voters !
Okay, I agree. Bernie was way out there.
But there is a big reason the Clinton's solicited so much money.
Bill made a bit of a mess of himself in the White House. Raising money for the Clinton Foundation, which actually does a tremendous amount of work for the poor, became his redemption.
Read the Wikipedia page about what the foundation does.
A politician leveraging to get donations has an appearance of possible wrong doing. This became a problem because Hillary is still active in politics.
At best: I agree it seems apparent a group of Pakistani doctors who met with Hillary helped influence Bill's trip to Asia. Bill visited Pakistan instead of skipping it.
Weigh the two people for what they actually have accomplished around the world and ask if they acted solely to extort wealth from others.
Certainly Trump's machine would have dug something up on Bernie if he needed it.
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