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Old 09-20-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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this tells you all you need to know. career politicians who are worried they'll lose all the perks and all the secret envelopes of cash exchanged in the boiler room, when you have a lot to lose, you lash out in odd ways, this denouncing is proof positive that these people believe trump will come in and clean up the corruption. its a nice 'tell' as to who feels they have a lot to lose.

 
Old 09-21-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Originally Posted by GearHeadDave View Post
Here's a handy reference of some prominent Republicans that have declared that they are voting for Hillary Clinton. Senators, Representatives, Governors - even a former Republican President. I am curious; how do Trump supporters explain this? Seems there are quite a few cold stone sober conservatives that are willing to go on public record that Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton will be a better POTUS than Donald Trump.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

George HW Bush
Former President of the United States

and

Christine Todd Whitman
Former governor of New Jersey

Robert J. Dold
Representative of Illinois

Peter Wehner
Former official in the Reagan and both Bush administration

Ben Sasse
Senator of Nebraska

Tom Coleman
Former representative of Missouri

Carlos M. Gutierrez
President George W. Bush’s commerce secretary

Robert Tuttle
Former ambassador to Britain under George W. Bush

David Durenberger
Former senator of Minnesota

Fred T. Goldberg Jr.
I.R.S. commissioner under President George Bush

Connie Morella
Former representative of Maryland

William K. Reilly
Former Environmental Protection Agency administrator

William D. Ruckelshaus- Former Environmental Protection Agency administrator

Robert D. Blackwill
Former top Iraq adviser on the National Security Council

Eliot A. Cohen
Former State Department counselor

Michael Chertoff
Former secretary of Homeland Security

Patrick M. Cronin
Former assistant administrator of the Agency for International Development

Eric S. Edelman
Former national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney

Jim Kolbe
Former representative of Arizona

Gus Coldebella
Former acting general counsel at the Department of Homeland Security

Chester A. Crocker
Assistant secretary of state for African affairs in the Reagan administration

Richard A. Falkenrath
Former deputy homeland security adviser to President George W. Bush

Peter Feaver
National security official in the George W. Bush administration

Richard Fontaine
Former State Department and National Security Council official

Myriah Jordan
Former special assistant to President George W. Bush

Frances Townsend
Former deputy national security adviser under President George W. Bush

Francis Q. Hoang
Former associate counsel to President George W. Bush

Aaron Friedberg
Former deputy national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney

Kenneth Adelman
Former director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency

Frank Lavin
Under secretary of commerce for President George W. Bush; political director in the Reagan White House

Mary Beth Long
Former assistant secretary of defense

James K. Glassman
Former under secretary of state

Richard Miles
Former director for North America, National Security Council

Andrew S. Natsios
Former administrator of the Agency for International Development

Nicholas Rostow
Former legal adviser to the National Security Council

Kori Schake
Former director of defense strategy at the National Security Council

Kristen Silverberg
Former assistant secretary of state

William H. Tobey
Former deputy administrator of the National Nuclear Security Administration

Dov S. Zakheim
Former under secretary of defense

Robert B. Zoellick
Former United States trade representative

Philip D. Zelikow
Former counselor of the State Department

David Gordon
Former director of policy planning at the State Department

Paul Haenle
Former director for China and Taiwan, National Security Council

William Inboden
Former strategic adviser at the National Security Council

David Kramer
Former assistant secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor

Robert G. Joseph
Former under secretary of state for arms control and international security affairs

Scott W. Muller
Former C.I.A. general counsel

Stephen D. Krasner
Former policy planning director at the State Department

Roger F. Noriega
Former assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs

Roger Zakheim
Former deputy assistant secretary of defense

Paul D. Miller
Former director for Afghanistan and Pakistan, National Security Council

Paul D. Wolfowitz
Former deputy defense secretary

Ken Mehlman
Former White House political director and Republican National Committee chairman

Mel Martinez
Former Florida senator and R.N.C. chairman

Scott Rigell
Representative of Virginia

Charlie Baker
Governor of Massachusett
Hilarious.

So you think there aren't at least as many Democrats voting for Trump? Really?

Thanks for the laugh.
 
Old 09-21-2016, 10:26 PM
 
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Hilarious.

So you think there aren't at least as many Democrats voting for Trump? Really?

Thanks for the laugh.
Feel free to name some prominent ones.
 
Old 09-22-2016, 12:27 AM
 
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Why you guys keep bragging about having the George W Bush administration on your side is beyond me.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GearHeadDave View Post
Here's a handy reference of some prominent Republicans that have declared that they are voting for Hillary Clinton. Senators, Representatives, Governors - even a former Republican President. I am curious; how do Trump supporters explain this? Seems there are quite a few cold stone sober conservatives that are willing to go on public record that Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton will be a better POTUS than Donald Trump.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

George HW Bush
Former President of the United States

and

Christine Todd Whitman
Former governor of New Jersey

Robert J. Dold
Representative of Illinois

Peter Wehner
Former official in the Reagan and both Bush administration

Ben Sasse
Senator of Nebraska

Tom Coleman
Former representative of Missouri

Carlos M. Gutierrez
President George W. Bush’s commerce secretary

Robert Tuttle
Former ambassador to Britain under George W. Bush

David Durenberger
Former senator of Minnesota

Fred T. Goldberg Jr.
I.R.S. commissioner under President George Bush

Connie Morella
Former representative of Maryland

William K. Reilly
Former Environmental Protection Agency administrator

William D. Ruckelshaus- Former Environmental Protection Agency administrator

Robert D. Blackwill
Former top Iraq adviser on the National Security Council

Eliot A. Cohen
Former State Department counselor

Michael Chertoff
Former secretary of Homeland Security

Patrick M. Cronin
Former assistant administrator of the Agency for International Development

Eric S. Edelman
Former national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney

Jim Kolbe
Former representative of Arizona

Gus Coldebella
Former acting general counsel at the Department of Homeland Security

Chester A. Crocker
Assistant secretary of state for African affairs in the Reagan administration

Richard A. Falkenrath
Former deputy homeland security adviser to President George W. Bush

Peter Feaver
National security official in the George W. Bush administration

Richard Fontaine
Former State Department and National Security Council official

Myriah Jordan
Former special assistant to President George W. Bush

Frances Townsend
Former deputy national security adviser under President George W. Bush

Francis Q. Hoang
Former associate counsel to President George W. Bush

Aaron Friedberg
Former deputy national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney

Kenneth Adelman
Former director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency

Frank Lavin
Under secretary of commerce for President George W. Bush; political director in the Reagan White House

Mary Beth Long
Former assistant secretary of defense

James K. Glassman
Former under secretary of state

Richard Miles
Former director for North America, National Security Council

Andrew S. Natsios
Former administrator of the Agency for International Development

Nicholas Rostow
Former legal adviser to the National Security Council

Kori Schake
Former director of defense strategy at the National Security Council

Kristen Silverberg
Former assistant secretary of state

William H. Tobey
Former deputy administrator of the National Nuclear Security Administration

Dov S. Zakheim
Former under secretary of defense

Robert B. Zoellick
Former United States trade representative

Philip D. Zelikow
Former counselor of the State Department

David Gordon
Former director of policy planning at the State Department

Paul Haenle
Former director for China and Taiwan, National Security Council

William Inboden
Former strategic adviser at the National Security Council

David Kramer
Former assistant secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor

Robert G. Joseph
Former under secretary of state for arms control and international security affairs

Scott W. Muller
Former C.I.A. general counsel

Stephen D. Krasner
Former policy planning director at the State Department

Roger F. Noriega
Former assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs

Roger Zakheim
Former deputy assistant secretary of defense

Paul D. Miller
Former director for Afghanistan and Pakistan, National Security Council

Paul D. Wolfowitz
Former deputy defense secretary

Ken Mehlman
Former White House political director and Republican National Committee chairman

Mel Martinez
Former Florida senator and R.N.C. chairman

Scott Rigell
Representative of Virginia

Charlie Baker
Governor of Massachusett

That's a lot of influential people - I'm thinking they see Trump as the worse of two evils more than solid endorsements for Clinton. Sort of like how the everyday voter supporting Clinton sees it.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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That's a lot of influential people - I'm thinking they see Trump as the worse of two evils more than solid endorsements for Clinton. Sort of like how the everyday voter supporting Clinton sees it.
When Trump takes office I see this list as a priority for the new head of the IRS to scrutinize. Kind of like what the liberals just did the conservatives. But this group is obviously more pay to play; just like their counterparts on the liberal side. So they are opposed to change that might put them under the spotlight. One good place to start looking.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BucFan View Post
That's a lot of influential people - I'm thinking they see Trump as the worse of two evils more than solid endorsements for Clinton. Sort of like how the everyday voter supporting Clinton sees it.
Another reason is that the Republicans think they will lose in 2020 if Trump is elected. I think they fear the damage that he will do to the GOP might be permanent. No question they would not take this position unless they thought Trump was a dire risk. I also suspect that the are getting a lot of pressure from their constituents to defeat Trump, they see him as bad for business. No one solidly endorses Clinton. But there are plenty of other compelling reasons to want her to win.
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