Mike Pence did well - but only by nimbly side-stepping defense of Trump

[AnywhereElse]

Originally Posted by wolf39us

What is this? Some reality show?

Pence "won" I guess if you think shamelessly lying in style is "winning"

Fact-checking Tim Kaine, Mike Pence at the VP debate (running blog) | PolitiFact
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/wha...elessly-lying/


Placing bets that if the VP's were switched that the same people who are saying that Pence won would be saying that Kaine won instead.

Disclaimer: I'm not for either of these candidates.

You'd lose that bet. Kaine acted like a chicken with his head cut off, imagine him with a foreign leader having a discussion.

[wolf39us]

Originally Posted by AnywhereElse

You'd lose that bet. Kaine acted like a chicken with his head cut off, imagine him with a foreign leader having a discussion.

I sincerely doubt that I would.

[ShiverMeTimber]

Blah blah, we'll settle this on election day gentlemen. I don't know who either of these people are. It's Trump vs Clinton.

[Eddyline]

Pence did well despite all the lies. Throwing Don under the bus was a good move.
He understands electoral politics and knows Trump can not possibly win.
He is setting himself up for the future, either as a future candidate or back to his previous work as a radio talk show host.
He was going to lose big in his reelection bid in Indiana and correctly guessed that losing as a national VP candidate was better than losing in flyover country.
No other Republican wanted to join Don "the Biggest Loser" Trump in his losing game show, so Pence took one for the team and raised his national profile. I don't agree with many of his policies but taking the VP spot was smart.

[Ringo1]

Originally Posted by wolf39us

What is this? Some reality show?

Pence "won" I guess if you think shamelessly lying in style is "winning"

Fact-checking Tim Kaine, Mike Pence at the VP debate (running blog) | PolitiFact
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/wha...elessly-lying/


Placing bets that if the VP's were switched that the same people who are saying that Pence won would be saying that Kaine won instead.

Disclaimer: I'm not for either of these candidates.

Exactly. I watched the end of the debate and was convinced that Kaine won - until I heard all of the talking heads.


Focus groups that were left to form their OWN opinion - also felt Kaine won.


IF one was focused strictly on how they looked vs what they said . . . then that could be different.

[jacqueg]

Originally Posted by AnywhereElse

Gee, for those that realized the purpose of the debate, Pence did exactly what he was supposed to be doing. We expected to learn about Pence and Kaine. I would think considering Hillary's ill health and a 99.9% chance that if she were elected that Kaine would be sworn in in the next couple of years that Democrats would have wanted to learn about him. Well, I guess they did learn about him. Sorry, goofy and rude know nothing.

No, Kaine didn't play the "bait your opponent into saying something that can be used in a campaign ad against him" with anything like the finesse that Clinton does. But he played it just the same, and he got his opponent to flat-out tell foolish lies in public, several times.

[MTQ3000]

. . . . and by shamelessly lying about what Trump had said. Just watch videos of Trump's own words.

Mick