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Old 10-06-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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Trump's bribes/tax cuts would greatly increase the deficit and the debt (Table 4)

"[Trump's] proposal would add $11.2 trillion to the national debt by 2026 and $34.1 trillion by 2036 (table 4 and figure 1). Assuming the tax cuts are not offset by spending cuts, the national debt would rise by an estimated 39 percent of GDP in 2026 and by nearly 80 percent of GDP by 2036"

Analysis of Donald Trump's Tax Plan | Full Report | Tax Policy Center

Hillary's plan would reduce the deficit and debt. (Table 3)

"Including interest savings from reducing the federal debt, Clinton’s proposals would reduce the federal debt by over $1.2 trillion over the 10-year budget window(table 3)."

An Analysis of Hillary Clinton's Tax Proposals | Full Report | Tax Policy Center
A couple points:

#1 Yes Trump's plan would in fact increase the debt more than Hillary's.

#2 Hillary's plan would in fact increase the debt too though according to neutral non-partisan sources...your source is as legit as asking Michelle if Barack is a good president.

#3 Your skewed source makes it seem like the $20 Trillion that Hillary will (likely) inherit will shrink...it will rise...the national annual deficit is set to steadily start rising again soon under current laws. Your skewed source is assuming best possible scenarios (much like Trump does for his BS on this issue) and then pretends that the debt would shrink do to some BS slowing of the deficit in some areas while the overall debt grows and other areas of the budget accelerate the annual deficit.
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Old 10-06-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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Trump: "I love debt... I am the king of debt"
"I'll promise anything!! I'm a politician!!"

3/10 Trump's commercials continue to have all the excitement of a pot-luck supper.
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Old 10-06-2016, 08:34 PM
 
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What seems to be lost too many times by the "experts" is that you can only tax those who work. So it is not a static figure. If many more jobs are created then the revenue lost by looking at the lower rate only is misleading. Those losses are offset by the taxes paid by people who now have jobs. These people who are now employed and paying taxes also now do not need public assistance.

Been proven quite a few times throughout history. It is not a fixed pie.
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:17 PM
 
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Trump: "I love debt... I am the king of debt"
You got a problem with people keeping more of the money they work hard to earn?

Being that Obama gave us more debt than many presidents combined you're really nervy.
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:20 PM
 
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What seems to be lost too many times by the "experts" is that you can only tax those who work. So it is not a static figure. If many more jobs are created then the revenue lost by looking at the lower rate only is misleading. Those losses are offset by the taxes paid by people who now have jobs. These people who are now employed and paying taxes also now do not need public assistance.

Been proven quite a few times throughout history. It is not a fixed pie.
That makes too much sense waltergulick but it may be above their heads.
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:32 PM
 
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It's a good ad, to the point, and on a topic that matters to most Americans.
No it's not a good ad. It's a feel good ad. I didn't hear how he would do any of this. Did you?
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Trump: "I love debt... I am the king of debt"



What happened to your "Numbers" you like to use as fact now? Wouldn't Obama be the "King" of Debt since he now holds the record? Or doesn't that fit your agenda? Say Hypocrite. Know any?
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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No it's not a good ad. It's a feel good ad. I didn't hear how he would do any of this. Did you?

Its a Great Ad, and sounds very appealing to all but Liberals, who want everything for free and don't want to work for it. You have a choice of what Trump will do or become a "Milk Cow" for Hillary and Bernie's Socialist States of America.
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:52 PM
 
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"I'll promise anything!! I'm a politician!!"

3/10 Trump's commercials continue to have all the excitement of a pot-luck supper.
You got a problem with people keeping more of the money they work hard to earn?
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Old 10-06-2016, 11:12 PM
 
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Its a Great Ad, and sounds very appealing to all but Liberals, who want everything for free and don't want to work for it. You have a choice of what Trump will do or become a "Milk Cow" for Hillary and Bernie's Socialist States of America.
But where did he say how he would make any of this happen. That's what I want to know.
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