***National Presidential Polls*** Part IV (votes, campaign, Clinton, elect)

[jacqueg]

Originally Posted by bellhead

I've seen people saying to add +5 to the democrats in all polls because of this.

That's way too much, especially for states with smaller hispanic/latino populations.

But it is true that Trump may have prodded awake a sleeping - not giant, but a grumpy heavyweight.

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by bUU

That's the 50/50. You said 44/44.

Your claim about using a two-way poll for a four-way contest is absolute nonsense. There is no principle of statistics that affords such nonsense any credibility whatsoever. You really need to study up on the science before posting such comments.

What's funny is when I posted two way stuff months ago all the Trump supporters kept yelling that it was a four way match. Now when it benefits them they are okay to post.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by jacqueg

But it is true that Trump may have prodded awake a sleeping - not giant, but a grumpy heavyweight.

There's a new

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

Not so fast, cherry-picker:

Democracy Corps (B- rated by 538)

National
Clinton 50%
Trump 38%
Johnson 5%
Stein 2%

Clinton in 12-point lead, potential for downballot gains | National Surveys

We are starting to see more polls coming up with numbers like the outliers of a couple weeks ago.

[eddiehaskell]

Originally Posted by ~HecateWhisperCat~

What's funny is when I posted two way stuff months ago all the Trump supporters kept yelling that it was a four way match. Now when it benefits them they are okay to post.

A 4-way is preferable and most pollsters do both, but for some reason Gravis only did a 2 way matchup.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by eddiehaskell

I love it baby. 12 vs tied. Good chance somebody has it right and somebody has it wrong.

Given the fact that Trump is losing nearly every battleground state, has the worst ground game in history relative to his opponent, and is barely holding on to reliably red states like Texas, Georgia, and Arizona... don't bet a cent on this race being tied. Instead, save the money for some Zoloft, or Prozac. You're going to need it on election night.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by eddiehaskell

A 4-way is preferable and most pollsters do both, but for some reason Gravis only did a 2 way matchup.

So it was a poll with zero undecideds?

[eddiehaskell]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

So it was a poll with zero undecideds?

Ask Gravis?

[Ace Rothstein]

Gravis sucks so there's really no reason to argue about their polls.

[2sleepy]

Montana OCT. 20-24 Google Consumer Surveys Clinton +3