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Old 10-12-2016, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Trump is bleeding support left and right...The closer we get to election day, the uglier the numbers will likely get for him. The country can only begin to heal, from this hatred filled campaign Trump has been running, when he loses in a landslide. His unbridled hate and ignorance needs to be roundly rejected and I suspect that is exactly what will happen.

 
Old 10-12-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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To be fair that poll will likely swing back towards Trump soon. Just like Rasmussen and Gravis will show better numbers for Trump. However, he was down by 4-5 even before the tape dropped. That's a pretty big margin to overcome in 3 weeks.
Normally I would agree but in terms of the LA Times poll, there was a 2.4 point swing between yesterday and today and this today's result should only include about 3 to 3.5 days worth of post tape opinions. I think this may have been one of the bigger swings day to day in that poll so it may be a sign of a huge swing since last Friday. I realize that we have to wait a few more days to really see the full effect but for such a steady poll a huge swing is very fascinating.
 
Old 10-12-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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Trump is bleeding support left and right...The closer we get to election day, the uglier the numbers will likely get for him. The country can only begin to heal, from this hatred filled campaign Trump has been running, when he loses in a landslide. His unbridled hate and ignorance needs to be roundly rejected and I suspect that is exactly what will happen.
Alas, all those who are cheering his venomous, hateful lies will still be with us.

Look at the stuff posted on the forum. Do you think these folks are suddenly going to see the light and start putting up posts that are "factually accurate," and logical?

Or do you think they will continue posting their nonsense.

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Old 10-12-2016, 02:20 PM
 
Location: North America
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Normally I would agree but in terms of the LA Times poll, there was a 2.4 point swing between yesterday and today and this today's result should only include about 3 to 3.5 days worth of post tape opinions. I think this may have been one of the bigger swings day to day in that poll so it may be a sign of a huge swing since last Friday. I realize that we have to wait a few more days to really see the full effect but for such a steady poll a huge swing is very fascinating.
Well read the article that was posted to give some clarity on the reasons the poll is so Trump friendly.
 
Old 10-12-2016, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Alas, all those who are cheering his venomous, hateful lies will still be with us.

Look at the stuff posted on the forum. Do you think these folks are suddenly going to see the light and start putting up posts that are "factually accurate," and logical?

Or do you think they will continue posting their hateful nonsense.
The won't stop. But they will be a smaller and smaller part of the electorate going forward. Until they reach the point of complete irrelevance.

They only way to stop America's launch towards liberalism is to (a) stop America's demographic change dead in its tracks (i.e., The Wall); (b) stop younger Americans from moving to large metropolitan areas, particularly urban cores; and (c) stop people from becoming more educated.

Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal? : NPR

Doubt any of those three is going to happen.
 
Old 10-12-2016, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Nevada Oct 10-11 PPP Masto +4
also from PPP Twitter feed: "48% of Trump voters in Nevada say they're less likely to vote for Heck because of his unendorsement of Trump"

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Old 10-12-2016, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Let's not get too comfortable with these polls, Dems. Nothing less than pure and complete annihilation of Trump and all he represents is acceptable. Make some calls, knock on some doors, donate! And vote!

Early voting has already started in Ohio. Let's start banking these votes now. We will give them no quarter. No surrender.

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Old 10-12-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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Let's not get too comfortable with these polls, Dems. Nothing less than pure and complete annihilation of Trump and all he represents is acceptable. Make some calls, knock on some doors, donate! And vote!

Early voting has already started in Ohio. Let's start banking these votes now. We will give them no quarter. No surrender.

I made a donation to my Democratic Senator's race today. He's running against Rubio.
 
Old 10-12-2016, 03:21 PM
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LA Times Poll distortion:

The USC Dornslife/LA Times poll isn't a poll, and is distorting the face of the election
 
Old 10-12-2016, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I said that about this poll a long time ago. Nobody bothered to read their methodology. They have a fixed universe of 3,000 voters and take a random sample of 400 from that fixed pool of 3,000 voters. That means they end up polling the same person again and again and again.

There is some use in that. It can show an actual shift in voter preferences, which it clearly did. But it's not that representative of the voting public due to its small sample size. You get one Black voter who supports Trump, as it did here, and the whole model gets thrown off. That sort of thing typically works itself out because you would poll many other Black voters.
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