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Old 10-11-2016, 08:34 PM
 
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It does get old and I find a lot of Trump's antics juvenile and questionable, but his core message on trade, terrorism, and jobs is resonating.

We are not electing the guy we'd necessarily want over for a family barbeque. We need to elect someone who has the nation's interests at heart.
Why do you think his message on trade, terrorism and jobs are resonating?
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:42 PM
 
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Liberal society is ruled by the ideology of non-discrimination. Of course this ideology is not imposed equally on everyone, but mainly on whites, men, Christians, heterosexuals, wealth producers, and so on... the “privileged” groups who "according to liberal ideology" are the only source of hate and discrimination
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:45 PM
 
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Leftist politicians claim they can legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. They don't consider what one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. That's liberal equality.

This is how the Trump phenomena took off. Do liberals really think that the people they are taking from will stand back and not fight it?
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:46 PM
 
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When half of the people get the idea that they don't have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:48 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Why do you think his message on trade, terrorism and jobs are resonating?
Because these are plain, common sense positions the man on the street can understand. They feel like Trump is speaking on their behalf.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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Because these are plain, common sense positions the man on the street can understand. They feel like Trump is speaking on their behalf.
Yes I agree. And the government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

This is how the Trump phenomena took off. Do liberals really think that the people they are taking from will stand back and not fight it?
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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These candidates are not both going negative. Trump goes negative, and has gone negative since the beginning of the campaign. His entire platform is built on anger, negativity, authoritarianism and conspiracy theories. When he loses, it will be the fault of the MSM or it was rigged.

"...Trump, trailing badly in the polls, is going negative by cheering on a massive hack that the Clinton campaign says comes courtesy of a group with ties to Russia; Clinton is attempting to portray herself as the candidate with a positive vision for working Americans...

Clinton, for her part, spoke in detail about efforts to fight climate change, highlighting Philadelphia’s “green roofs, porous pavement, and some curbside gardens to help absorb storm water.”

But for his part, Trump appeared to be more interested in waging a war against his own party than focusing on the weaknesses of the Democratic nominee..."


Clinton, Trump settle into parallel paths - POLITICO
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:57 PM
 
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If we don't support Hillary then Hillary calls us deplorable in an attempt to belittle people for daring not support her. It may work for some who are easily manipulated but for most they just laugh. It's an attempt to control people's mind through shaming.
Hillary never called people deplorable for not supporting her. She made clear she was using the term not to refer to all Trump supporters but rather to that element which supports him for xenophobic reasons...David Duke types, white supremacists, etc. And, frankly, those worldviews are deplorable and should be condemned by leaders in an inclusive democracy.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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Liberal society is ruled by the ideology of non-discrimination. Of course this ideology is not imposed equally on everyone, but mainly on whites, men, Christians, heterosexuals, wealth producers, and so on... the “privileged” groups who "according to liberal ideology" are the only source of hate and discrimination
This is nowhere near the truth.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:06 PM
 
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Hillary never called people deplorable for not supporting her. She made clear she was using the term not to refer to all Trump supporters but rather to that element which supports him for xenophobic reasons...David Duke types, white supremacists, etc. And, frankly, those worldviews are deplorable and should be condemned by leaders in an inclusive democracy.
It's simply name calling because she has nothing else to offer. Name calling to..

- eliminating free speech by harassing and attempting to silence anyone who disagrees with her;
- intolerance toward anyone who does not willingly submit to their agenda;
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