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Old 11-07-2016, 09:59 PM
 
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Back then Hillary was against gay marriage, was against abortion and was pro-cop/law enforcement.

Everything she stood for back then she has done a 180 on. Donald has been consistent.
Is it better be be wrong and recognize that you are wrong or be wrong and remain consistently wrong?
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:00 PM
 
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Over the years Trump also was a close friend of the Clintons and supporter of Obama and was himself a democrat........
The Democrats have changed profoundly since back then. I was a Democrat back then too.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:02 PM
 
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The Democrats have changed profoundly since back then. I was a Democrat back then too.
So you saying Trump like yourself and like Hillary have changed positions on certain views?
So what is the problem?
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:04 PM
 
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Less than 24 hours and it is all over, one way or the other!
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:07 PM
 
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So you saying Trump like yourself and like Hillary have changed positions on certain views?
So what is the problem?
I haven't changed views on anything. I knew abortion was wrong then and I know it still is. I knew gay marriage was offensive and wrong then and I still believe that.

The Democrats have turned their back on working families in favor of corporate interests while putting out a smokescreen of standing up for whacked causes like gay everything and transgender and you name it.

They don't really care about any of that crap. They care about big money.

Not the Democratic Party that my parents supported when I was growing up. Not even close.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:10 PM
 
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I just cannot believe he was ever on Oprah. Lol.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:17 PM
 
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I just cannot believe he was ever on Oprah. Lol.
The country was different back then. Oprah was just as liberal, but liberals were not as rude and closed minded as they are now. They actually used to listen.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:17 PM
 
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I haven't changed views on anything. I knew abortion was wrong then and I know it still is. I knew gay marriage was offensive and wrong then and I still believe that.

The Democrats have turned their back on working families in favor of corporate interests while putting out a smokescreen of standing up for whacked causes like gay everything and transgender and you name it.

They don't really care about any of that crap. They care about big money.

Not the Democratic Party that my parents supported when I was growing up. Not even close.
Well then, that only leaves Trump and Clinton.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:21 PM
 
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Well then, that only leaves Trump and Clinton.
Did you watch the video? Trump hasn't changed either. Pretty much what he says today. I think that's the point of this thread.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:30 PM
 
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Did you watch the video? Trump hasn't changed either. Pretty much what he says today. I think that's the point of this thread.
He has the same key talking points, yes. But he changed his views on other things just like his opponent has.
And in this campaign alone both candidates habe flip flopped more then enough. Typical politicians.

Also Trump on immigration in 2012 was a different tune than Trump on immigration in 2016!

Trump in 2012: 'I don't believe" in deporting many undocumented immigrants - CNNPolitics.com
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