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Old 11-09-2016, 03:24 AM
 
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When President Obama took office, he wanted to focus on strengthening out infrastructure. Republicans refused and said no increased debt. The first thing Trump says in his speech is we will have infrastructure second to none. That's pure tax dollars. There is no offset for that. Where is he going to get the money for that? Is this what rural America is hoping for? That my tax dollars are going to pay you to build a road in Alabama? We don't owe you that. Who is going to pay for that and is a Republican congress going to start passing trillion dollar bills with no offset?
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:33 AM
 
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When President Obama took office, he wanted to focus on strengthening out infrastructure. Republicans refused and said no increased debt. The first thing Trump says in his speech is we will have infrastructure second to none. That's pure tax dollars. There is no offset for that. Where is he going to get the money for that? Is this what rural America is hoping for? That my tax dollars are going to pay you to build a road in Alabama? We don't owe you that. Who is going to pay for that and is a Republican congress going to start passing trillion dollar bills with no offset?
Trump has a bold agenda, that's for sure. Obama's major flaw is that he had no leadership skills or experience. He was likable to a degree, and a gifted speaker, but he caused a ton of division from day one. When there is adversity you don't go and blame your predecessor for everything. You take responsibility and unite. Obama was never able to do that. Trump has made a crap ton of deals and knows how to negotiate. Give him a chance before you go looney tunes.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:36 AM
 
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Trump has a bold agenda, that's for sure. Obama's major flaw is that he had no leadership skills or experience. He was likable to a degree, and a gifted speaker, but he caused a ton of division from day one. When there is adversity you don't go and blame your predecessor for everything. You take responsibility and unite. Obama was never able to do that. Trump has made a crap ton of deals and knows how to negotiate. Give him a chance before you go looney tunes.
That's complete BS. Republicans decided to oppose President Obama on everything the night of his inauguration. Trump has all the three branches. I don't want to fund Middle America because they were too lazy to go get an education. Why should my tax dollars go to them? I love how middle America calls everyone else takers while they try to put their hands in my wallet. I will vote against every tax increase there is. No tax dollars for lazy rural America.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:39 AM
 
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That's complete BS. Republicans decided to oppose President Obama on everything the night of his inauguration. Trump has all the three branches. I don't want to fund Middle America because they were too lazy to go get an education. Why should my tax dollars go to them? I love how middle America calls everyone else takers while they try to put their hands in my wallet. I will vote against every tax increase there is. No tax dollars for lazy rural America.
And Obama had the House plus a supermajority in the Senate! That is why we got ObamaCare! Quit being so emotional and deal with it.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:41 AM
 
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And Obama had the House plus a supermajority in the Senate! That is why we got ObamaCare! Quit being so emotional and deal with it.
Oh I will deal with it by delighting in the failure of Trump and rural America which is trying to get a handout. No votes for increased debt. They need to get an education and get a job. If Republicans were against debt for infrastructure before, they should remain so.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:43 AM
 
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When President Obama took office, he wanted to focus on strengthening out infrastructure. Republicans refused and said no increased debt. The first thing Trump says in his speech is we will have infrastructure second to none. That's pure tax dollars. There is no offset for that. Where is he going to get the money for that? Is this what rural America is hoping for? That my tax dollars are going to pay you to build a road in Alabama? We don't owe you that. Who is going to pay for that and is a Republican congress going to start passing trillion dollar bills with no offset?
Its all going to change, a guy who's not beholden to special interests running the country is MUCH different than what you're used to, its hard to predict, but you would be surprised how much surplus of cash you have left over if you're not being like a typical politician. Its going to be interesting for sure.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:43 AM
 
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Oh I will deal with it by delighting in the failure of Trump and rural America which is trying to get a handout. No votes for increased debt. They need to get an education and get a job. If Republicans were against debt for infrastructure before, they should remain so.
ObamaCare is a handout! Did you oppose that? By the way, the union vote went to Trump. Abandon the unions with global trade deals and we'll see the map blown up for years to come.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:46 AM
 
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Should be interesting. Obama had the $60 billion road/bridge bank on his platform and similar things in many of his proposed budgets. If we essentially take one of Obama's campaign promises he's failed to provide and Trump proposes it and pushes it through that really wouldn't surprise me.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:47 AM
 
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ObamaCare is a handout! Did you oppose that? By the way, the union vote went to Trump. Abandon the unions with global trade deals and we'll see the map blown up for years to come.
I'm not on Obamacare. 20 million people lose their health coverage and Paul Ryan gets his dream to voucherize Medicare and privatize Social Security? I don't care. End pre-existing conditions. Take it all as long as you don't get my tax dollars. If middle America wants Trump, they can lose it all and fund his infrastructure.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:49 AM
 
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When President Obama took office, he wanted to focus on strengthening out infrastructure. Republicans refused and said no increased debt. The first thing Trump says in his speech is we will have infrastructure second to none. That's pure tax dollars. There is no offset for that. Where is he going to get the money for that? Is this what rural America is hoping for? That my tax dollars are going to pay you to build a road in Alabama? We don't owe you that. Who is going to pay for that and is a Republican congress going to start passing trillion dollar bills with no offset?
Relax !!! You weren't worried when Obama was spending like a drunken sailor and built nothing.
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