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Old 12-21-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Unbelievable, isn't it? We heard for years "Bush lied, people died", now these fools are actually trying to say that there were WMD.

In fact, that same mind set was still being said up to 2-3 months ago. Suddenly, the intelligence was correct, WMDs were indeed in Iraq.

If you tried to make this up, people would tell you it extends believability and to rewrite the script...but here's the libs, trying to push their alternate reality on everyone.

Also libs: Project Mockingbird. Don't be idiots, the CIA has controlled the media before.
All we want is good solid evidence and not yellow journalism. Our government is great at hiding information from it's own people and not that great at hiding it from everybody else.
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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This tread is not about if russians hacked anything but what information was exposed that tilted the election to trump.
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Sunshine state
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Russian hacking is no longer a question, it is a proven fact. CIA, FBI, other intelligence agencies, independent private sector computer network experts all agree the Russians did in fact break into the DNC's computer, stole the private data and gave it to WikiLeaks.

The WikiLeaks was not the primary reason Clinton lost. It was one factor out of many. The single largest factor was Comey's letter -- there was an immediate drop in her poll numbers after that letter was released from which she never recovered.
Eh, even if we were to believe these intelligence agencies - who brought us Iraq / Afghanistan Wars and ISIS by the way, so what?

So they leaked some data to the public. Any hacker can do that, Russia just happened to do it before anyone else. Hacking is wrong, no argument from me on that point, but to blame the entire election loss on Russia? Give me a break! Even your post admitted that it wasn't the hacking that sank her, it was Comey's last minute letter that did it.

Although personally, I think Hillary sank herself for being a weak candidate to begin with.
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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So three pages and still nothing that was exposed by the hacking that might of caused Clinton to lose?
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have no problem with leaking secret information about a presidential candidate, no matter what the source. The more leaks the better. EVERYTHING about a presidential candidate is my business.

In this case, the ends justify the means.
Then you would be overjoyed if someone leaked Trump's tax returns then, wouldn't you?
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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In other words: We hate the Russians because they helped tell the world all the illegal stuff we were doing and it helped people understand that we are really lying,murdering scumbags ....
What illegal stuff? Might have been some dirty politics, but illegal? Name one illegal thing revealed by the email leaks. Just one illegal thing will do.
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Be sure to thank hillary clinton for her careless use of servers and personal devices.


She used devices while travelling to countries that feds knew are constantly hacking devices. Hillary ignored the warning. Hillary ensured Russia and anyone else could access national security secrets, databases and personal devices.


Russia and a host of others including the US have been known to be hacking each other's databases for years.


Obama told us no one could possibly hack the US election. So is obama wrong again or was he lying?????
Clinton's private server has never been hacked as far as anyone has been able to tell. That includes the FBI, Republican Investigative committee.

Keep telling the same lies over and over and over. You might start believing them yourselves.
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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No, I'm saying, in general, take with a grain of salt any utterance that comes from a human mouth, especially when it comes to politics.

I am saying that Bill Clinton's wife, like George Bush's son, is meritless and (both) should never have been even considered as candidates. In any case, there should be a Constitutional amendment to preclude dynasty candidates for the presidency (I have detailed this elsewhere).

And I am concerned that a certain basket of deplorable arrogant powerbrokers will propose the same horror again, and they may even succeed next time like they did the previous time but not this time.

As it stands now, then, we got what we got, and to understand the reason why please just look in the mirror and not at the Russians or any other boogeyman.

Just look in the mirror.
God I hope that happens, because sure as ****, Trump will attempt to install his son in law, his sons and his daughter Ivanka into the presidency, one after the other if he can get away with it.
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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So is the Senate. Be patient
OJ Simpson is on the case as well.
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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so Russian hackers are good enough to bypass firewalls, bypass server security, and access individual data but they ARE NOT competent enough to use an intermediary proxy to cover their tracks?! Heck, if I were a hacker I would do the deed and then make it look as if the DNC hacked themselves! (or if I was sneaky I would hack federal servers and make it look as if the DNC did it )
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