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Did these seventeen agencies do their own independent investigation?
Or is it like when you Google a story and you get seventeen links that
all link back to the same source?
Why do we have seventeen intelligence agencies anyway?
Does that sound efficient to anyone? I wonder how well they interact.
Comey should be fired for his part. Obama appointed him even though he was a Republican. Obama should have known better. I mean who's side do you think he will take? Hello?
Here you go:
Air Force Intelligence
Department of the Treasury
Army Intelligence
Drug Enforcement Administration
Central Intelligence Agency
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Coast Guard Intelligence
Marine Corps Intelligence
Defense Intelligence Agency
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
Department of Energy
National Reconnaissance Office
Department of Homeland Security
National Security Agency
Department of State
Navy Intelligence
That help?
I do wonder though...most make sense...but the dept of treasury?
So it's your claim that all 16 of these agencies, started their own independent investigation, of a privately owned server? LOL! Maybe you guys should listen to yourselves.
It's either complete nonsense.
Or
A prime example of how dysfunctional the government has become under Obama's leadership.
I keep hearing that the Russians "hacked". the election from the main stream media. Perhaps someone can help me find the devastating news that was discovered that tilted the election to Trump. Still Looking!
It must be stated plainly: The U.S. intelligence community must make its evidence against Russia public if they want us to believe their claims. The integrity of our presidential elections is vital to the country’s survival; blind trust in the CIA is not. A governmental disclosure like this is also not entirely without precedent: In 2014, the Department of Justice produced a 56-page indictment detailing their exact evidence against a team of Chinese hackers working for the People’s Liberation Army, accused of stealing American trade secrets; each member was accused by name. The 2014 trade secret theft was a crime of much lower magnitude than election meddling, but what the DOJ furnished is what we should demand today from our country’s spies.
Underlying problem is that the timing is far too convenient. Russians hacked us, but this wasn't all that important to scream furiously from the rooftops until right now, when Donald Trump is a lock to take office. Now would be the last window of opportunity to sabotage Trump's presidency, so now is the time that dirty tricks tend to come out. People don't believe the whole, "The Russians Stole My Election!!" schpeel because it just feels like more excuses for Hillary losing and the timing tends to point at this being a false flag operation and/or more Democrat propaganda.
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Russia, Iran, North Korea, China ..... all of them and maybe others have been hacking the U.S. for years. Obama knew it long before he came out with the accusations just before the election. It was a weak attempt to salvage what what left of Clinton's campaign which at that point, was swirling in the bowl.
Russian hacking is no longer a question, it is a proven fact. CIA, FBI, other intelligence agencies, independent private sector computer network experts all agree the Russians did in fact break into the DNC's computer, stole the private data and gave it to WikiLeaks.
The WikiLeaks was not the primary reason Clinton lost. It was one factor out of many. The single largest factor was Comey's letter -- there was an immediate drop in her poll numbers after that letter was released from which she never recovered.
I also think the FBI interference was the biggest reason. It is hard to estimate how many voters the Russian pro-Trump interference was able to sway. Hacking was only one part of it. On-line presence, and fake news were also heavily utilized to promote Trump, and tear down the opponent.
America needs to fix its computer systems. A start would be to build computer in America !!! There should be a defined and select Federal and State INTRANET, that is not connected to the INTERNET !!! If we don't figure out how to have a dual system and ensure that there are hard locks between them, then we invite continued waste of money and lay open to higher risk.
We play budget cheap games and then complain when we are hacked, yet, these foreign nation employ mass numbers of people to engage in their Cyber Security, we want to put skeleton crews and then whine we are hacked.
Everyone knows Russia hacked the system, the political spin game of denial is itself insidious. We had better call it what it is, and stand on the call, and be driven to fix the leak in the dikes. We go blind and can't figure out we've been hacked till long after the fact. What good does that do? We better wake up and get up to date in our system and get busy and build a parallel system, that is not internet accessible.
There should have long been a dual system, and for portals that deal with state and local agencies, that should have been a system, with hard locks that lock on the internet, when they want to interact with Intranet servers.
There should have been a SPECIFIC browser designed for specific access to INTRANET, and the instance that browsers is deployed, the Internet is Locked Out.
What are we using common open market browsers for in the first place when it comes to government data interactions.
We could have our own "gatekeeper network of people" to ensure these is no compromise between a specific government brower and a public web browser. If we had specific dumps managed by "gatekeepers" to serves where data can be filtered for public service program operators to access, then there would be no pathway into the areas or servers where secret and critical information is kept.
We need to review and redesign the infrastructure. If we don't make investments to separate such things, and have a secure intranet for our grid and everything else that is critical, and designated access to that system via special browsers and managed by specific gate keepers, then we will spin in the cycle of data breeches continually. We've been at this for well more than 30 yrs, one would think, some of these things would be well underway.
How do we allow- system to not have some intricate protocols that alert when a string has set off a scan process, surely we can do it, if the public browsers providers have "bots" that go in and collect and target anything they want to target about the public.
There's a lot of smart people who know this stuff, but someone is holding the purse strings and not making it a priority.
Wow, we have gone six pages of yes they did or not they didn't, perhaps someone else did. REGARDLESS who might of hacked who. I am trying to find out what INFORMATION or NEWS was put into play before the election because of the hack, that pushed people to vote TRUMP. What damaging information was possibly put out that caused Clinton to lose. ??? All I hear over and over is that the Russians hacked the election, yada yada yada. If nothing damaging was put out about Clinton why would anyone care enough to vote trump?.
YOU could almost say that it helped Clinton. If voters thought that the Russians were trying to hurt her with the hacking then she might of benefited with the sympathy vote.
Wow, we have gone six pages of yes they did or not they didn't, perhaps someone else did. REGARDLESS who might of hacked who. I am trying to find out what INFORMATION or NEWS was put into play before the election because of the hack, that pushed people to vote TRUMP. What damaging information was possibly put out that caused Clinton to lose. ??? All I hear over and over is that the Russians hacked the election, yada yada yada. If nothing damaging was put out about Clinton why would anyone care enough to vote trump?.
YOU could almost say that it helped Clinton. If voters thought that the Russians were trying to hurt her with the hacking then she might of benefited with the sympathy vote.
People outside of a few major metro areas DID NOT LIKE HILLARY and/or Donkey policies.
Trump was more appealing than Hillary to the voters in the majority of precincts, counties, and states. its as simple as that - Hillary was a terrible candidate who had "weird spells" on camera and was subject to several investigations due to her mishandling of classified information. She was terrible and she lost the popular vote in the majority of states (which is the only place popular vote counts)
Wow, we have gone six pages of yes they did or not they didn't, perhaps someone else did. REGARDLESS who might of hacked who. I am trying to find out what INFORMATION or NEWS was put into play before the election because of the hack, that pushed people to vote TRUMP. What damaging information was possibly put out that caused Clinton to lose. ??? All I hear over and over is that the Russians hacked the election, yada yada yada. If nothing damaging was put out about Clinton why would anyone care enough to vote trump?.
YOU could almost say that it helped Clinton. If voters thought that the Russians were trying to hurt her with the hacking then she might of benefited with the sympathy vote.
Honest truth: The Democrats desperately want a super simple answer for why they lost. Russian hackers is a nice and simple go-to answer. Racism, misogyny, bigotry, Islamophobia are all also quick and easy answers. But everyone knew about all of that stuff (imagined or real) before the election and America elected Trump anyways. The quick and dirty answers are the wrong answers. The DNC needs to shut up, cut the crap, roll up their sleeves and do the hard work of figuring out why they actually lost.
The Russian hacking -- if it even was Russians -- was not why Hillary lost. Hillary Clinton is the reason that Hillary Clinton lost. If the time comes that we know with 100% certainty that it was the Russians, it really doesn't matter. The American people already knew it probably was Russians on November 8th and weighed that in their decision of who to vote for.
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