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The Clinton Campaign's post March 4th message is to forget about the delegate count and nominate Hillary because she can win the big states Democrats need in November. That argument simply doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Here's why:
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Originally Posted by eliptik
The Clinton Campaign's post March 4th message is to forget about the delegate count and nominate Hillary because she can win the big states Democrats need in November. That argument simply doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Here's why:
Me thinks that ALL The Democrats give Ohio too much money, time and attention. They would do better to battle for other states too. John Kerry put all his eggs in Ohio and none of them hatched!
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You really hit the head on the nail with your article.......Hillary does make the case about winning the big states but all of the big states that she has won, with exception to Texas are heavily blue states and would vote for Obama regardless in the general election. You can also forget about Texas going blue in the general election. Obama has made head way in red states which could turn blue if he were the nominee. All it takes is a few red states turning blue and Obama wins the presidency. Independents as I said before would put Obama over the top. Hillary supporters just dont see it that way and would rather lose supporting Hillary than win supporting Obama. You can bet the republicans will rally their party together to "stop Hillary" and thats not a good sign. Believe it or not, a "stop Hillary" campaign has already started
The one thing that could energize the Republican base is their inveterate hatred for Hillary Clinton. Clinton would mobilize right-wing base voters the same way that hatred for Bush motivated Democrats in 2006. Why should we help galvanize the Republican base by nominating Hillary Clinton when we have another great choice?
The above quote really nailed it for me, in fact the whole article really tells it like it is. Makes points that several of us have been trying to get across, but Clinton supporters just ignore.
if the democrats think they can win the election without ohio, florida, and michigan they could be mistaken....
If im not mistaken John Kerry won all those states in the primary but he lost them all in the general election. Hillary's big state win claim just doesnt hold up.
Glad you posted this. Also, if one takes into account the six states with the most delegates that have held primaries so far (TX, OH, CA, NY, NJ, IL), of the 1,196 delegates at stake, Senator Clinton took only 56 more total than Obama, with 10 in Texas and 2 in OH still outstanding (according to Real Clear Politics data).
If you look at only NY, NJ, IL and CA, as the author says, the traditional "solid" blue states, with a total of 862 delegates, there's a difference of 46 delegates (Obama 408 and Clinton 454). Those states going to McCain if Obama is the nominee is highly unlikely.
Well Im a culturally conservative republican, and most of my friends are too. Many of them no longer view Hillary as bad as they used to, in fact many of them think Obama is worse. I think that while the Washington Elite may love to disparage Hillary, nomnating Obama would probably energize the base.
Im about as right wing as you could get, but I would much rather vote for Hillary than Obama. Obama's record is much more liberal than Hillary's.
I think the republican elite have picked the wrong person to villify.
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