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The request includes voters party affiliation AND how/who they voted for since 2006!
UMM- NO FREKIN' WAY!
Our votes as Americans are in secrecy and should never be collected. Period.
Unless there is a specific ballot to voter log, I don't believe "who" they voted for can be determined. Now which party ballot you used in a primary is tracked.
Unless there is a specific ballot to voter log, I don't believe "who" they voted for can be determined. Now which party ballot you used in a primary is tracked.
Not in our state. We have open primaries. Our SoS office doesn't collect party ID or how we vote.
Not in our state. We have open primaries. Our SoS office doesn't collect party ID or how we vote.
That's interesting. Per your profile, you are in Montana and you take all the ballots and use just one. What do you do with the others?
Here in MA during the primary, you take the ballot for the party you are enrolled with. Since more than half the registered voters are unenrolled, we chose a single ballot which is marked on the check in sheet. When you check out, it is noted again at that time by someone else. Your party affiliation does not change.
Election fraud has already been proven in some states, but now the DEMentia party is refusing to participate in the investigation in other states. If there is no fraud, why are they afraid of assisting with the investigation?
JustFacts.com estimates that between 0.59 million and 5.7 million illegals voted in the 2008 presidential election. Yes, that is a wide range, but it proves that illegals could make a difference in states with a close race.
Funniest thing is THEY think they have beaten Trump and the GOP....what they don't realize is President Trump and the GOP is going to use their refusal to insure free,honest elections free of fraud etc in so many midterm political ads its going to sink the dems chances. President Trump is ALWAYS 5 steps ahead...I bet he KNEW what the response was going to be and its part of the plan.
Michael Chertoff editorial on the dangers inherent with the Trump data request. He served as the Secretary of Homeland Security under Dubya from 2005-2009.
Funniest thing is THEY think they have beaten Trump and the GOP....what they don't realize is President Trump and the GOP is going to use their refusal to insure free,honest elections free of fraud etc in so many midterm political ads its going to sink the dems chances. President Trump is ALWAYS 5 steps ahead...I bet he KNEW what the response was going to be and its part of the plan.
Wrong, the funny thing is that even though it has been explained to the trumplings that it is not just Blue States telling them to go fly a kite the trumpings still think it is about blue verses red. Plan, trump has no plan, he is just hoping he can somehow prove he really did win the majority of voters that bothered to vote, and of-course to keep the minions occupied.
Sadly the trumplings see trump as a genius, when in fact most people know he is anything but.
The more information you put in one spot, the greater the incentive for hackers to crack it. You're not going to convince most states of the wisdom of putting personal information for every voter in the country on one site despite the amount of safeguards you think you can devise to protect it. Even Republican Secretaries of State think that giving anyone that much access to personal information is a lousy idea. With voter information decentralization is an asset, not a liability.
Yeah, I looked at this closer and agree that the "data gathering" is definitely a step too far. There must be some type of data that could be gathered that did not include personal details, e.g., names linked to addresses and etc. If states were more diligent in purging their rolls of dead people and requiring i.d. for voting, then the percentage of illegal votes would be small and the effects of fraud less likely to be serious.
As it is, when I go to vote they have volunteers sitting there who do not ask for i.d. and, when presented, will not look at it. Stupid. A country that refuses to secure its borders AND its elective process is a county sliding into the dustbin. Do a google search for the "broken window theory" and you will see what happens when a tipping point is reached. When the law is enforced, only a small percentage of lawbreakers exist, but when the law is loosely or not enforced, then the percentage rises and eventually a tipping point is reached. Same with elections. Of course, some parties benefit more from illegal voting than other parties.
"There must be some type of data that could be gathered that did not include personal details, e.g., names linked to addresses and etc."
Do you mean like a telephone directory book?
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