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Old 11-08-2017, 08:07 PM
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Actually look into the issue and you will be surprised how badly the GOP and POTUS actions have hurt the insurance market
No the problem is Obamacare and will be as long as it exists. It needs to go and I will not be voting for anyone who is not trying to get rid of it. Bad law and bad plan. Save your breath. I am really disappointed with congress that it still exists.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:09 PM
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That's true,democrats have won seven of the ten governor races in Virginia since 1981.It shouldn't be any surprise.Even during the Reagan years republicans couldn't win the governor races in Virginia.
Do you think the news reported that? They think we are stupid.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Watching the GOP reps. on TV and seeing a mixed bag. POTUS lost this election. The GOP lost this election.

Their idea to destroy healthcare and now destroy the tax system will work against them if either is passed.


Right now the GOP and the failure to re-up the re-insurance provisions of the ACA are coming to light. Healthcare coverage for workers and retirees are going up based on that failure.

The tax plan is looking real bad as more people actually are doing their own numbers and seeing an increase.

The idea to pass something just to say they passed it will not work if the product sucks.

With out bi-partisan action the GOP will get killed in 2017.

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Lol stop it!

VA is a blue state, and has been for some time. And Gillespie is an establishment Republican, who made a big, public noise about distancing himself from Trump--he knew he was running an uphill battle in VA, and that he wasn't going to make it. He campaigned with GWB, for crying out loud.

A never-Trumper losing to a Dem in an anti-Trump state is no referendum on Trump. It's the Dems who don't understand last night's results. Just as they STILL don't understand what happened last year--and why.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:24 PM
 
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Trump wasn't on the ballot. Neither was universal healthcare.

Someone has been filling your head with nonsense.

Probably the same people saying Hillary was essentially guaranteed to win.
Trump's minions were on the ballot though, so it might as well have been him. Trump couldn't be voted out so voters did the next best thing.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump's minions were on the ballot though, so it might as well have been him. Trump couldn't be voted out so voters did the next best thing.
wow Nat, you are way wrong here

as Del said it above
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VA is a blue state, and has been for some time. And Gillespie is an establishment Republican, who made a big, public noise about distancing himself from Trump--he knew he was running an uphill battle in VA, and that he wasn't going to make it. He campaigned with GWB, for crying out loud.

A never-Trumper(Gillespie) losing to a Dem in an anti-Trump state is no referendum on Trump. It's the Dems who don't understand last night's results. Just as they STILL don't understand what happened last year--and why.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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wow Nat, you are way wrong here

as Del said it above
No, not wrong at all. And I'm not just talking about the governors race. Dems, won across the board and took seats they may have lost if Trump wasn't in office. Republican incumbents lost, to some dems running for office for the very first time. I hope this trend continues because it's sending a message that our government is not working. Republicans control everything but haven't had any legislative passed in Trump's first year in office. I am so tired of him fighting his own party members and calling them names when they don't agree with him. He fully supported Gillespie until he lost and then he threw him under the bus. Trump tweeted that he didn't embrace "him" or what he stood for and that's why he lost. Trump didn't even mention the republican party because it's always about him not the republican party.

People took a chance voting for Trump. Hillary was a horrible candidate. But now that they see who they voted for it has been enlightening for many. Trump will always have his 30% base but that's it. Republicans seeking re election are in a very precarious position. Do they embrace Trump or not?
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:09 PM
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No, not wrong at all. And I'm not just talking about the governors race. Dems, won across the board and took seats they may have lost if Trump wasn't in office. Republican incumbents lost, to some dems running for office for the very first time. I hope this trend continues because it's sending a message that our government is not working. Republicans control everything but haven't had any legislative passed in Trump's first year in office. I am so tired of him fighting his own party members and calling them names when they don't agree with him. He fully supported Gillespie until he lost and then he threw him under the bus. Trump tweeted that he didn't embrace "him" or what he stood for and that's why he lost. Trump didn't even mention the republican party because it's always about him not the republican party.

People took a chance voting for Trump. Hillary was a horrible candidate. But now that they see who they voted for it has been enlightening for many. Trump will always have his 30% base but that's it. Republicans seeking re election are in a very precarious position. Do they embrace Trump or not?
No. You are wrong and so are the jerks on the news that don't have a clue either.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Is bi-partisan a thing anymore?
Yes, but not much of a thing. It could be a greater thing again, though, in the near future.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Trump wasn't on the ballot. Neither was universal healthcare.

Someone has been filling your head with nonsense.

Probably the same people saying Hillary was essentially guaranteed to win.
No, but 2018 will be a referendum on Trump and his administration. The off-year elections always are, and if Congress changes hands, 2018 will most likely be the year it will change. That's the way the off-year elections always are, too.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Democrats are rejoicing a narrow victory that should of been a landslide? Should be a good 2018... they are only behind by a thousand losses....
Don't expect landslides. They are as rare in elections as they are in nature. 2018 will probably be as contentious an election year as 2016 was, so expect the wins and losses to be narrow. Narrow is normal. Landslides are not.
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