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There’s a plausible case that could be made today that there are grounds that wasn’t apparent yesterday.
The President’s own lawyer said under oath in a Federal Court that Mr. Trump instructed him beforehand to send hush money to two former mistresses to avoid negative publicity prior to his election in violation of Federal Election Law. If corroborated, that by itself is a felony. Will impeachment happen? Of course not, because Trump still has the support of his base and the R’s in Congress will protect him at all cost until if and when it becomes apparent that he is destroying the Republican Party.
Still a long way to go, but Trump is in a much weaker position than he was just 24 hours ago.
But we do not know, is did he use campaign funds or his own and we may never know for sure.
The Manafort/Cohen criminal outcomes have permanently damaged Trump. The USS Trump is taking on water and is listing to one side... it greatly increases the chance he won't run for reelection. These convictions have killed any chance for Trump to win in 2020. The stink of corruption is now permanently attached to Trump.
The harsh reality: Trump barely won in 2016 by a razor thin margin of less than 100,000 votes in Penn., Mich. and Wisc. Those were moderate swing voters who took a chance on Trump. Now fast forward to 2020 and imagine the campaign ads showing Manafort and Cohen behind bars, the long list of guilty pleas and convictions, etc. "Trump admin most corrupt since Nixon. You can't trust Donald Trump."
Trump's advisors will tell him he has no chance to win in 2020. Trump hates to lose, so he'll choose to not run. He'll cite a desire to return to the private sector and to make amends with his family. Trump will be a one-term wonder.
The Demonics have guaranteed Trump will be re-elected in 2020.....thanks
Campaign Finance Law violations are indeed impeachable.
Why wasn't Obama impeached? He was fined $375,000 for violating them. Ahh yeah, that Democrat double standard, that's why.
Or course, none of you anti-Trumpers want to talk about that.
Trump is fine. Where ever he goes, he fills venues beyond capacity with his supporters from real America, and not the MSM made up world that some of you seem to live in.
Why wasn't Obama impeached? He was fined $375,000 for violating them. Ahh yeah, that Democrat double standard, that's why.
Or course, none of you anti-Trumpers want to talk about that.
Trump is fine. Where ever he goes, he fills venues beyond capacity with his supporters from real America, and not the MSM made up world that some of you seem to live in.
If it's Booker or Cuomo, I will vote third party. I'm not a fan of Warren and not sold on the other two.
And then you effectively waste your vote--
Just like Jill Stein siphoned votes from HRC or those who wrote in Sanders name helped Trump to win,
Just like Ralph Nadar ensured Bush's victory (even in that contested result)--because w/o Nadar's siphoning votes from Gore, there would have been no close recount-level vote to start with...
I don't like Booker or Cuomo and don't know that any of those jockeying for position as DNC front-runner is capable of bridging the gap between GOP and DNC if elected
Maybe no one is considering McConnell would perhaps still be Majority leader in Senate
Personally I think there needs to be someone more from regional than national level--that has less animosity already in place because of their national presence...
I admire lot of things Warren has done or tried to do, but she is a lighting rod for those who just will not vote for a woman--same with Harris (who doesn't have the experience IMO)...
Look for a governor who has managed to create concensus within his own state house and given his state good leadership...
But I don't think we can consider someone outside government--
There are too many things to learn about government to start after Inaugaration...
But we do not know, is did he use campaign funds or his own and we may never know for sure.
I guess that depends on what you consider the level required for proof....
Some people likely would not believe ANY level of proof if Trump says he didn't do it...
Supposedly in the Manafort trial one female juror voted not guilty to every count from the beginning
She was Trump supporter apparently and initially refused to even admit there was evidence that proved "beyond a reasonable doubt" (ergo that first set of questions to Judge Ellis) that Manafort was guilty...
His response was something like "reasonable" doubt---not UNreasonable doubt...
Someone who is so tied to partisanship, and thus likely influenced by Trump's mantras pro-Manafort and anti-Mueller has lost the capacity to render a "fair and just" verdict...
I am just grateful to the other members of the jury who were able to show her that proof existed that Manafort was guilty on at least the 8 he was found guilty... https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...land-elections
I will point out that the woman who says "one female juror" was set on non-guilty says SHE is a Trump supporter....and she was willing to convict Manafort on all counts based on evidence...
I would also point out that there was a female juror who came forward during the trial and tried to force a mistrial by claiming that at least one other juror had already made up her mind about guilt...
Now the name of that reporting juror wasn't mentioned in the article I read because the trial was ongoing and the jurors all had anonymity at that point...
But I wonder, knowing now there was 1 female holdout for long time who still would not be persuaded that Manafort was guilty on ALL counts as the other 11--if THAT holdout juror was the woman who tried to throw a monkey wrench and get a total mistrial called--
Which would have been a benefit for Trump at least to Trump and his supporters...
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But we do not know, is did he use campaign funds or his own and we may never know for sure.
Nita, it doesn’t matter.
Even if he used his own money and didn’t report it as a campaign contribution, it’s a felony.
There's no campaign limit to using your own money, but not reporting it is a crime under election law. Any campaign related expense must be reported, and it hard to say that paying women for their silence months before an election isn’t election related.
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Even if he used his own money and didn’t report it as a campaign contribution, it’s a felony.
There's no campaign limit to using your own money, but not reporting it is a crime under election law. Any campaign related expense must be reported, and it hard to say that paying women for their silence months before an election isn’t election related.
It's a misdemeanor not a felony. It's happens a lot. Obama did it too and had to pay something like 700k in fines for it. Also, if paying money to help your campaign is a crime then the HRC campaign is even in more trouble for paying for the fake dossier since she ALSO colluded with Russia to do so.
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