For Bernie Sanders, Holding Onto Support May Be Hard in a 2020 Bid (votes, illegal)

[Kavalier]

Originally Posted by Chowhound

The DNC gave him the shaft last time. I wonder how that will play out now?

He's too old, and all of the other front runners are really no different from him.

Plus he's white, and for all of the intersectionality/identity politics crowd he's too white, too male and too old.

Originally Posted by Blackjack2000

Marx was German.

Sanders' ancestors aren't from Europe, just to be clear..

Marx was the same ethnic/religious affiliation as "Sanders". Hmmmm.

[Ponderosa]

Bernie's ship has sailed. He will go nowhere this time. Unlike 2016, there are several more appealing candidates out there.

[PcolaFLGuy]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Bernie's ship has sailed. He will go nowhere this time. Unlike 2016, there are several more appealing candidates out there.

He's already leading the polls over announced candidates. Only Biden polls better.

[Elliott_CA]

Originally Posted by PcolaFLGuy

He's already leading the polls over announced candidates. Only Biden polls better.

Only because of name recognition. When Obama entered the race he was in last place, well under 10%. The whole purpose of a campaign is to market yourself to voters so they get to know you. Polls this early are meaningless.

[Blackjack2000]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Bernie's ship has sailed. He will go nowhere this time. Unlike 2016, there are several more appealing candidates out there.

Warren is the only remotely appealing candidate.

Originally Posted by PcolaFLGuy

He's already leading the polls over announced candidates. Only Biden polls better.

Biden will crash hard when he's subjected to the scrutiny of a presidential primary.

[PcolaFLGuy]

Originally Posted by Elliott_CA

Only because of name recognition. When Obama entered the race he was in last place, well under 10%. The whole purpose of a campaign is to market yourself to voters so they get to know you. Polls this early are meaningless.

You'll see.

[Monello]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Why is he setting them up for failure? Is it going to divert DNC resources to sabotage his campaign like last time?

Maybe Donna Brasile will slip him the debate questions this time.

[Monello]

Originally Posted by Miso Blu

Hillary was a safer bet for the DNC and she did win the popular vote so....

Imagine in football if the team that gained the most yards won. Imagine in baseball if the team with the most hits won. Imagine.

---> insert eyeroll smiley here <-------

[oceangaia]

Originally Posted by sandsthetime

Personally, I don't think he's going to do nearly as well has he did when his only competition was Hillary and he was pretty much getting the backing of the "Anyone but Hillary" crowd.

Agreed. In 2016, his platform was far left and he had the support not only of those voting against the establishment (Hillary) but all of those far left. Today, you have lots of candidates far left and his support base is fractured. There's no need for Bernie to push that agenda anymore. I can see Kamala saying "I can do anything Bernie can do... and live to see it through".

[Blackjack2000]

Originally Posted by oceangaia

Agreed. In 2016, his platform was far left and he had the support not only of those voting against the establishment (Hillary) but all of those far left. Today, you have lots of candidates far left and his support base is fractured. There's no need for Bernie to push that agenda anymore. I can see Kamala saying "I can do anything Bernie can do... and live to see it through".

Haha, Kamala already backed away from her Medicare For All position. She spent her career building the carceral state. She's not fooling anyone.