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Old 03-04-2020, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Gee, a tweet from Trump trying to drive a wedge between Bernie supporters and the Democratic party. How transparent. You people can't possibly fall for this stuff.
Smart people won't, but then there's the Bernie Bro's.
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Old 03-04-2020, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So ... does Obama come out and support sleepy? or doc? Bernie looks like doc from the 7 dwarfs.
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Old 03-04-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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So ... does Obama come out and support sleepy? or doc? Bernie looks like doc from the 7 dwarfs.
Obama is not going to weigh in publicly until the nominee is chosen but I think he probably leaned on Buttigieg to drop out.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:26 AM
 
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Pocahontas is folding up her teepee and calling it quits.

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Elizabeth Warren ends presidential run

Sen. Elizabeth Warren is suspending her presidential campaign, a source familiar with the decision tells NBC News, a bitter blow for a senator who was long seen by prominent Democrats as headed for the White House.

It is unclear whether Warren will endorse another Democratic candidate for president.
But who will she endorse? That is the question.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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While Joe Biden is enjoying his surprise, establishment assisted surge in the Democrat primaries, the investigation of Burisma and Vice President Biden's involvement in corrupt activities in Ukraine proceeds apace.

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Sen. Ron Johnson on Biden Investigations: "Joe Biden Has Never Adequately Answered These Questions"

en. Ron Johnson (R-WI) announced he is close to releasing an interim report on investigations Senate Republicans have been running on former vice president Joe Biden, his son Hunter and his ties to the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, and Ukrainian interference in U.S. elections.

"My investigation into possible corruption in the Obama administration dates back to Hillary Clinton's email scandal," Johnson told FOX News host Martha MacCallum. "It was our oversight that ended up releasing most of the Peter Strzok, Lisa Page texts. I joined Chuck Grassley's investigation into possible DNC involvement with Ukraine to affect the 2016 election back in 2017."

"It's not our fault that Joe Biden, Hunter Biden got wrapped up in the whole Ukrainian story," Johnson said. "We are not closing our eyes to this. And I have no idea why anybody would object to us obtaining records from a U.S. consulting firm run by former Clinton administration officials that is basically using Hunter Biden's name to strongarm the State Department to curry benefits for a corrupt Ukrainian oil company. So that's what we are trying to do here. But, our investigation and our oversight is much broader than just this Ukrainian story with Hunter Biden and even the DNC."

{More at the link}
So, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Donald Trump was investigated and exonerated. Now Joe Biden is being investigated as well, but the outcome of this investigation will unfold over the months to come.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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While Joe Biden is enjoying his surprise, establishment assisted surge in the Democrat primaries, the investigation of Burisma and Vice President Biden's involvement in corrupt activities in Ukraine proceeds apace.
So, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Donald Trump was investigated and exonerated. Now Joe Biden is being investigated as well, but the outcome of this investigation will unfold over the months to come.
Trump was not 'exonerated'. And Burisma only became an issue when the dotard realized that he might lose the election to Biden so he decided to try to dig something up to destroy him, that's from the same playbook as Hillary and the emails.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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While Joe Biden is enjoying his surprise, establishment assisted surge in the Democrat primaries, the investigation of Burisma and Vice President Biden's involvement in corrupt activities in Ukraine proceeds apace.

The 2016 version of Ron Johnson signed a letter supporting US efforts to have Victor Shokin removed, which Joe Biden helped the State Department do shortly thereafter.

The 2020 version of Ron Johnson wants to investigate Joe Biden for supporting US efforts to have Victor Shokin removed in 2016.

That is all you need to know about Ron Johnson's probe.
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Old 03-06-2020, 12:14 PM
 
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Bernie Sanders lead over Joe Biden in the RCP National Poll Average peaked at 12.2 points on February 24, 2020 - just 11 days ago. Here is what that polling looked like:

RCP Poll Average - National (Feb 24, 2020)
29.2 - Sanders
17.0 - Biden
15.5 - Bloomberg
12.8 - Warren
09.8 - Buttigieg
06.2 - Klobuchar

Today Joe Biden is in the lead, by 7.5 points - a 19.7 point swing (20 points) in 11 days.

RCP Poll Average - National (March 6, 2020)
34.3 - Biden (+17.3)
26.8 - Sanders (-2.4)
16.7 - Bloomberg (+1.2)
13.8 - Warren (+1.0)

Obviously Bloomberg and Warren are out too now, so these polls will likely continue to evolve over the next week or two.

Of course this historically massive swing was instigated by the 'Mother of All Dog Whistles', which was discharged by Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), with his endorsement of Joe Biden on the eve of the South Carolina primary, which was then amplified by the abrupt exits of Pete Buttigieg and Amy Kobuchar on the eve of the Super Tuesday primaries, obviously under heavy pressure from Democrat party leaders.

Anyway, a 20 point swing in two weeks, all behind a candidate who many people believe should probably not be driving, much less running for President of the United States. Talk about a super-impressive display of the Democrat establishment's political power to direct their supporters to vote a certain way at a critical moment.

Wow. Very impressive indeed. Not in a good way. But still.

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Old 03-06-2020, 12:27 PM
 
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Bernie Sanders campaign co-chair is floating Elizabeth Warren as Sanders VP choice. It may not matter, because the establishment has its weapons locked and loaded on Sanders, but this may be the best move that Sanders can make right now.

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Sanders campaign co-chair floats Warren for VP slot

Rep. Ro Khanna, a national campaign co-chair for Bernie Sanders, on Friday called Elizabeth Warren "an outstanding choice" to become Sanders' running mate should he capture the Democratic presidential nomination. The California Democrat told MSNBC he would "absolutely" advise Sanders to name a woman as his vice presidential pick, and singled out the Vermont senator's colleague from Massachusetts when asked who specifically he would recommend.

"Maybe Sen. Warren," Khanna said. "I mean, I've said Senator Warren would be an outstanding choice. There will be other outstanding choices."

The words of praise from the top Sanders campaign official come after Warren declined to immediately endorse another candidate after dropping out of the Democratic primary Thursday — further irking some Sanders supporters who argued that she siphoned progressive voters from Sanders on Super Tuesday.
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Old 03-06-2020, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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https://www.vox.com/2020/3/6/2116613...-biden-sanders

According to this there are 1499 delegates so far awarded, with 2480 remaining. To go with my tried and true marathon race analogy, we are about 37% of the way through, or roughly in mile 9 of a 26.2 mile marathon race. Rarely can you predict the winner of a marathon after mile 9.

Biden is now up to 84% in the RCP betting odds avg. I think it's way too soon for that. Biden still has a ton of skeletons in his closet. There are corruption issues that are well known but barely even mentioned. For example:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/elec...crats-176.html
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Government records show that [Joe] Biden, who has always insisted he knows nothing about his son's business activities, helped Hunter's work....

On Feb. 28, 2007, [then-Sen] Biden contacted DHS to express that he was “concerned about... Section 550 of DHS Appropriations Act of 2007....”
Section 550, which was passed in 2006 as part of the DHS appropriations bill, requires high-risk chemical plants to submit site safety plans to DHS...

Eight weeks earlier, the Industrial Safety Training Council had hired Hunter Biden’s firm to lobby DHS on the issue. The trade group, which represents companies that provide safety training for chemical facility employees, was mounting a heavy lobbying campaign over section 550....
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