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Old 04-09-2019, 02:42 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Strange how with this election it's the democrats flooding the field. Last time it was the republicans. Don't these people realize that with too many in the running, you end up with someone like we have now in the WH? smh
Yeah... The Republicans ran the clown car over a cliff and Trump was the only one to survive. The Democrats are trying to do the same -- But will need a bus pretty soon. I never heard of some of these people.
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Many are called, few are chosen. There will be far fewer after Iowa, and after New Hampshire, fewer still.

Too many candidates is much better than too few candidates for either party.

Too few results in losing more often than not, especially when a party grows hungry for fresh leadership. Right now, few Democrats want the same old same old again. That feeling hit the Republicans last time, but it hadn't built up in 2016 in the Democrats as strongly as it has since then.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:24 PM
 
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Many are called, few are chosen. There will be far fewer after Iowa, and after New Hampshire, fewer still.

Too many candidates is much better than too few candidates for either party.

Too few results in losing more often than not, especially when a party grows hungry for fresh leadership. Right now, few Democrats want the same old same old again. That feeling hit the Republicans last time, but it hadn't built up in 2016 in the Democrats as strongly as it has since then.
You say that, and yet Joe Biden has been solidly in the lead in the polls the whole way, while no Republican establishment endorsed candidate ever held that position, or anything close to it in 2016.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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You say that, and yet Joe Biden has been solidly in the lead in the polls the whole way, while no Republican establishment endorsed candidate ever held that position, or anything close to it in 2016.
Joe always starts out hot and fades away. That's what has happened twice before.

Don't get me wrong- I like the guy. He just has always screwed up his Presidential bids because of who he is. He knows it, too. I'm sure that's why he is so hesitant to announce this time, and I don't think he will after the touchy-feely thing with the women.
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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Haven't heard anything about John Kasich.
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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Haven't heard anything about John Kasich.
Is that a bad thing?

He can stay in Ohio, just like Butt...well however the heck you spell/pronounce their name, can stay in Indiana and live the best life.

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Old 04-15-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Bernie Sanders has taken the lead in the most recent Emerson Poll:
Bernie Takes Lead for Democratic Nomination, Mayor Pete On The Move

A new national Emerson poll, including 20 Democratic candidates for President, found Senator Bernie Sanders ahead of the pack with 29%, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden at 24%. They were followed by Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 9%, former Rep. Beto O’Rourke and Senator Kamala Harris at 8%, and Senator Elizabeth Warren at 7%. Entrepreneur Andrew Yang and former HUD secretary Julian Castro were at 3%. The poll was conducted April 11-14 of Democratic Primary voters with a subset of n=356, +/- 5.2%.

Spencer Kimball, Director of Emerson Polling, said “while still early in the nominating process, it looks like Mayor Pete is the candidate capturing voters’ imagination; the numbers had him at 0% in mid-February, 3% in March and now at 9% in April.”

Kimball also noted that “Biden has seen his support drop. In February, he led Sanders 27% to 17%, and in March the two were tied at 26%. Now, Sanders has a 5 point lead, 29% to 24%.”

Meanwhile, support for Joe Biden is looking softer and Pete Buttigieg is apparently the big mover right now, as he moves into third place at 9%.
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:20 PM
 
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I said it a while ago now... Biden isn't running.. still waiting for him to make the announcement of not running like he said he was going to make this month...
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I said it a while ago now... Biden isn't running.. still waiting for him to make the announcement of not running like he said he was going to make this month...
Biden may never announce he's not running. It may hold some advantage for him not to do so.

If he says nothing, it will become evident as time goes by, but still leaves an option open for him if a stalemate or something arises later on, when there's no clear winning candidate who can carry through to the nomination.

Biden has the one big advantage of name recognition. His name is the only one that every voter would recognize on a ballot because he was VP for 8 years. He could enter the race quite late in the day because of this, and he knows it.

The other thing Joe knows is how he always starts off quite strongly, then tangles himself up and fades in a long race. He ran as a Presidential candidate twice before, and this happened to him both times. Entering late would maximize his strength- a fast powerful start, while minimizing his weakness, the fade that comes later in the game.

Since he has said many times this decision is a very difficult one for him to make, and from everything he's said in the recent past, along with all the family issues he's had, I've been uncertain from the first that he would run at all.

But since he has those advantages, he could afford to lay out of the early race that's so congested with so many unknowns who will all be fighting for recognition, let their attrition take place, and then enter facing a much smaller field of opposition.

For a senior politician, getting into the race too early can lead to real trouble later on. John McCain made this mistake in 2007, and plowing his way through the early field of Republicans cost him most of his campaign funds. He had to scramble for every dollar afterwards, had to cut back his campaign costs drastically, and was close to being strapped in the late campaign after he was nominated. This put him on a constant disadvantage at a time when lack of funds hurt him the most.

The money pours in early, but it's the final quarter of the campaign when it counts the most and needs to be spent the most. The funds have to be very carefully allocated early on to prevent running out a few weeks before election day. They can never count on big donations coming in late.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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I heard someone say the last time around that Biden will be the highest in his approval numbers just before he announces. Then when they start vetting him, it will go downhill from there.
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