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Old 07-19-2019, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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So Trump holds a rally in PA, 20,000+ show up.

Biden holds is "kickoff" rally in Philly, barely 900 show up. Even Hillary did better than that during her kickoff rally. These days, he's doing good if he gets 100.

This speaks for itself.
You keep making this argument, but Trump crisscrossed Pennsylvania in 2018 and lost both state wide races there, a special election and lost 4 of the 5 competitive house races, with 2 more being on the ropes that werent supposed to be competitive. A net lose of 7 seats in that one state.

Arguing crowd size isnt going to work. Trump had larger crowds than all those Democrats combined and they all still beat the candidates he supported.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:25 AM
 
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You keep making this argument, but Trump crisscrossed Pennsylvania in 2018 and lost both state wide races there, a special election and lost 4 of the 5 competitive house races, with 2 more being on the ropes that werent supposed to be competitive. A net lose of 7 seats in that one state.

Arguing crowd size isnt going to work. Trump had larger crowds than all those Democrats combined and they all still beat the candidates he supported.
Yep, and when Leftist Dems win, and they probably will we can expect to see more cities to start looking more like impoverished violent holes like Detroit, Baltimore, South Chicago, and now even the former great Democratic controlled cities of Seattle, LA, Portland, and SF. Modern Dems. You guys screw up everything you touch.

We can only pray that more Republicans, Independents, and the few Rare Moderate Democrats that are still left win everywhere. The extreme ideologue like Omars, the AOCs, Pressleys, and the Tlaibs are the new Democrats that will hasten the downward trend the country is going.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT0BggshPdo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gT5NULvRSk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtNqkHxfR7I

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Old 07-19-2019, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Yep, and when Leftist Dems win, and they probably will we can expect to see more cities to start looking more like impoverished violent holes like Detroit, Baltimore, South Chicago, and now even the former great Democratic controlled cities of Seattle, LA, Portland, and SF. Modern Dems. You guys screw up everything you touch.

We can only pray that more Republicans, Independents, and the few Rare Moderate Democrats that are still left win everywhere. The extreme ideologue like Omars, the AOCs, Pressleys, and the Tlaibs are the new Democrats that will hasten the downward trend the country is going.
1. Detroit and Baltimore both have problems, but neither is because of Democrats. Michigan as a whole is failing, and its legislature and Gubinatorialship has been held by Republicans more often than Dems.

2. None of the other cities you named are failing in any way.

3. you named 4 Dems you dont like, forgetting that not a single one of them won one of the 42 seats Democrats flipped, and that those 4 alone with 3 incumbents are all that exist of the Lefitst you do despise.

so 228 to 4 is the score, proves my point of you guys overexaggerating.

Mean while at its height, the Tea Party had 60 members.

The most the Justice Democrats can ever do is hold a press conference. They dont control votes.
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Old 07-19-2019, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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You say Georgia hasnt shown signs of this, but Clinton gained 30,000 votes more in Georgia than Obama did in his 08 landslide. While trump only got 10,000 more votes than Romney. And Stacy Abrams, in a midterm, got 50,000 more votes than Clinton.

Georgia is on the same path as North Carolina and Virginia before it. Voters are not switching sides, young people are getting old enough to vote, and new people are moving in. Its the Northern Virignia tipping point, but instead, its Atlanta and its suburbs.

Hillary flipped 3 or 4 of the Atlanta suburb counties , Abrams won those counties by larger margins.



Clearly Georgia is shifting, and doing so faster than some thought.
I think a lot of people did flip. Talking of generally conservative people who were put off by Donald Trump's candidacy and presidency. No telling whether these people have flipped for good or whether they are just waiting out Trump. Still, President Trump won Georgia by over 5% than Hillary last time around. No one seriously expects him to lose the state next year, but will be watching to see how close the final results are. I'm expecting a similar finish to last time, to be honest. Of course, we also have to admit that Georgia--since Republicans have started having success there in the relative recent past--has never been as ruby red a state as some might think. Republicans have done well there, but at the statewide level the state hasn't really been overwhelmingly Republican.
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Old 07-19-2019, 02:25 AM
 
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1. Detroit and Baltimore both have problems, but neither is because of Democrats. Michigan as a whole is failing, and its legislature and Gubinatorialship has been held by Republicans more often than Dems.

2. None of the other cities you named are failing in any way.

3. you named 4 Dems you dont like, forgetting that not a single one of them won one of the 42 seats Democrats flipped, and that those 4 alone with 3 incumbents are all that exist of the Lefitst you do despise.

so 228 to 4 is the score, proves my point of you guys overexaggerating.

Mean while at its height, the Tea Party had 60 members.

The most the Justice Democrats can ever do is hold a press conference. They dont control votes.

Your delusional if you don't think Seattle, LA, or SF Portland have issues, that are just coming to fruition at the hands of inept and corrupt Democrats and their policies. It's not like those videos were created by Republicans.

As far as the Gang or whatever you call them, they are the face of the new Democrat party, and the rest of the Democrats have been sucking up to them and empowering them, just like Obama and the CBC sucking up the Lois Farrakhan. Unfortunately the next ones that come after them, will be even more Radical.

As far as Detroit and Baltimore go they are corrupt to the Core, and it has nothing to do with the state unless you think Kwame Kilpatrick or Catherine Pugh were corrupt because of Republicans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdgVK7qgg8
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I think a lot of people did flip. Talking of generally conservative people who were put off by Donald Trump's candidacy and presidency. No telling whether these people have flipped for good or whether they are just waiting out Trump. Still, President Trump won Georgia by over 5% than Hillary last time around. No one seriously expects him to lose the state next year, but will be watching to see how close the final results are. I'm expecting a similar finish to last time, to be honest. Of course, we also have to admit that Georgia--since Republicans have started having success there in the relative recent past--has never been as ruby red a state as some might think. Republicans have done well there, but at the statewide level the state hasn't really been overwhelmingly Republican.
I disagree about the flippers. Its the elastic state argument

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...national-mood/

Georiga has relatively few people who switch parties, which is exactly why I believe its all comes down to turnout. The margin of Georgia is 5%, but thats not a lot in a race with 4 million votes casts. And honestly, Georgia's turnout isnt all that great. They have high registered voter turnout, but thats based on also having "active voter rolls" which purge people.

their actual percentage of Voting age people who vote is closer to 50% than to the 75% number that gets reported. VEP numbers always matter more than RVP.

this race is about 50,000 to 100,000 vote race and a good turnout could flip that state easily because as you said, it isnt ruby red.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Your delusional if you don't think Seattle, LA, or SF Portland have issues, that are just coming to fruition at the hands of inept and corrupt Democrats and their policies. It's not like those videos were created by Republicans.

Have issues, is not the same as failing. That was your argument, you were wrong. Whats the largest Republican controlled city that isnt entirely backed by the government(military, government jobs) ?

im looking at list right now, and I dont see a single major US city controlled by Republicans where the private sector non military is the largest industry or even makes up a majority of top 10 industries.

Seems Republicans cant run a self sustaining city to me, at least by your own logic right



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As far as Detroit and Baltimore go they are corrupt to the Core, and it has nothing to do with the state unless you think Kwame Kilpatrick or Catherine Pugh were corrupt because of Republicans.
corruption doesnt have a political party as there are plenty of Republicans going to jail for it as well.

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As far as the Gang or whatever you call them, they are the face of the new Democrat party, and the rest of the Democrats have been sucking up to them and empowering them, just like Obama and the CBC sucking up the Lois Farrakhan. Unfortunately the next ones that come after them, will be even more Radical.
You are making a perception argument from the view point of a right of center person who hates Democrats,that doesnt make it factual.

the "squad" has no power within the party.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No matter which Democrat is nominated, Trump will be running against Omar. Else the Democrat nominee is going to have to disavow everything that Omar stands for. For example, Biden has already been forced to apologize, yes apologize, for the deportations that took place under Obama.

This is classic Trump at his best at his MASSIVE rally in the former Obama swing state of NC last night. Forget WI, MI, & PA. Democrats are going to have a hard time holding onto ME, NH and MN.

The news media is promoting the leftist freshmen Congresswomen, because the people running the news media love socialism, and antisemitism. They make Trump's job easy.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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No matter which Democrat is nominated, Trump will be running against Omar. Else the Democrat nominee is going to have to disavow everything that Omar stands for. For example, Biden has already been forced to apologize, yes apologize, for the deportations that took place under Obama.

This is classic Trump at his best at his MASSIVE rally in the former Obama swing state of NC last night. Forget WI, MI, & PA. Democrats are going to have a hard time holding onto ME, NH and MN.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=0nbnReq2C_4
Omar is now the headline news of every major MSM outlet out there. They absolutely can't resist calling everything and everyone associated with Trump "rassis". Anyone who doesn't think this was "engineered" of course won't agree that this is very bad news for the Democrat party.

It's the beginning of the end to the Democrat nominee's chances in 2020. Fascinating to watch them fall for the bait, over and over and over.

Even Buttigieg couldn't resist calling Trump's supporters Racist. Now he joins Hillary in calling 10s of millions of voters Deplorable. So caught up in their own self importance, they don't see it at all.



Well it doesn't matter. Trump has made "Omar" the nominee for the Democrat party. They are going to be running on her record and background now. The crash and burn of their electoral chances will be fascinating to watch.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:56 AM
 
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I think Trump vs the squad is a wash. It's like choosing between syphilis and gonorrhea. One really isn't that preferable to the other.


Strangely I think the Trump call out has actually united Dems who were starting to fray over the recent stupidity of the four freshman. It also seems to have awakened a group of people who do not like Trump but grudgingly go along for SC justices and R leanings. I'm sure the Squad can fire up the R base like few others but Trumps method of raising this issue just fussed up the anthill as usual.
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