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Old 10-14-2019, 05:37 AM
 
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I don't know if Trump can hold the disaffected working class, and Warren will sing the siren song of socialism (aka the free $hit song) to them.

By the way, I don't buy that inflation is what's hurting the working class. it's more automation and offshoring. Look at the trends in industrial output and industrial employment in the country. That tells a lot of the story.
No one is getting more free stuff than Trump`s base.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...curity/516861/
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:40 AM
 
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Ah, the love affair with Trump by those ill-informed folks...

Trump does not love you back. He’s using you!!
Ah, the HATE affair with Trump by those ill-informed folks...


Hope you like crow. If you didn't GET enough after the last election, YOU ARE GOING TO EAT PLENTY THIS TIME!
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:51 AM
 
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No one is getting more free stuff than Trump`s base.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...curity/516861/
Lol, this is who published this article - "The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal policy-analysis group",
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:54 AM
 
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OK all you liberals blinded by hate for Trump: You keep overlooking the other side of the equation, and that's the America-hating leftists running for the nomination. They want to weaken this country, because "equality" is the answer to all problems and they see America as too strong, and that's why they want to increase the percentage of uneducated, semi-literates who will be dependent on government largesse their entire lives. (For the votes.)

That is why they are appalled that there is a low unemployment rate and that food stamp usage has dropped - how will they win an election if people, through their own hard work, move from the government-dependent poor to hard-working moderate earners? And THAT is why they want to decriminalize illegal immigration, entice more to come in via promises of health care and sanctuary cities, and do whatever they can to keep the flow coming in.
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Old 10-14-2019, 06:28 AM
 
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Lol, this is who published this article - "The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal policy-analysis group",
Okay. Let`s see what you got. I`m open minded.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...curity/516861/
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:39 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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OK all you liberals blinded by hate for Trump: You keep overlooking the other side of the equation, and that's the America-hating leftists running for the nomination. They want to weaken this country, because "equality" is the answer to all problems and they see America as too strong, and that's why they want to increase the percentage of uneducated, semi-literates who will be dependent on government largesse their entire lives. (For the votes.)

That is why they are appalled that there is a low unemployment rate and that food stamp usage has dropped - how will they win an election if people, through their own hard work, move from the government-dependent poor to hard-working moderate earners? And THAT is why they want to decriminalize illegal immigration, entice more to come in via promises of health care and sanctuary cities, and do whatever they can to keep the flow coming in.
We're not blinded by hate. We have thousands of reasons to dislike Trump. As in 12,019, because that is the number of times he has lied since his inauguration. Tell us why you support him. Explain EXACTLY what it is you support. MAGA? What MAGA? There's no wall. What on earth do you approve of about Trump? You can't approve of his honesty. He's a prolific liar. You can't approve of his transparent administration. He hides anything and everything. You can't approve of his morality. He's been divorced twice, filed bankruptcy four times, and cheated on his wife with porn stars. You can't approve of his eloquent speeches. He isn't eloquent either.

You can't approve of his military record. He wasn't in the military. You can't approve of his achievements in office because those have been few and created mostly by others. Such as the low unemployment rate you harp on endlessly about? Trump did not create the low unemployment rate, so that's a fail. You can't approve of his hard work. He's taken more time off than any president in history! You can't support his classy, diplomatic behavior. He bashes and insults people constantly on Twitter. You can't even approve of his physical fitness. He's overweight and doesn't exercise. So what are you supporting exactly? I'm mystified.
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Old 10-14-2019, 08:26 AM
 
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Okay. Let`s see what you got. I`m open minded.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...curity/516861/
Blacks are the largest recipients of welfare percentage wise to their population numbers. That's common knowledge. You also claimed that most of the white population who are Trump supporters are the ones receiving the most welfare. You never proved that at all! There are many whites who are Democrats that receive welfare benefits. There are 34-48% of whites who vote Democrat.
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Old 10-14-2019, 08:28 AM
 
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Blacks are the largest recipients of welfare percentage wise to their population numbers. That's common knowledge.
And?
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Old 10-14-2019, 08:56 AM
 
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Most hardcore Trump supporters WANT Trump to win again in 2020. This is one scenario as to why Trump might have a shot: If alot of people don't vote. The drop in voter turnout worked out in Trump's favor, to an extent. He still lost the popular vote.

And I'll open a can of worms on this. A considerable amount of Trump's support base includes those who have a fear and resentment towards "the other". He resonates well with those who have resentment towards Blacks and other minorities. He resonates well with those who just want to stick it to liberals, those who want to fly Confederate flags, those who want Black Lives Matter locked away,etc.

We're dealing with an ongoing culture war.
I assume that you are a younger man and you come off like a reasoned individual. That said there isn't this deep fear of the "other" that you say, maybe it might existing in the deepest and bleakest backwater places possible but otherwise it's not really that much of a thing. There really isn't a thing with the people wanting to oppress black folks like back in the day. I'm not saying that racism isn't there, but its just not a thing like it was 50 years ago. Black folks are doing great, they are moving on up, as George Jefferson said.

I think you need to get off of CD and live a little, people aren't really that bad. Life isn't that bad, and despite what you see in the media, things aren't that bad, really.
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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I assume that you are a younger man and you come off like a reasoned individual. That said there isn't this deep fear of the "other" that you say, maybe it might existing in the deepest and bleakest backwater places possible but otherwise it's not really that much of a thing. There really isn't a thing with the people wanting to oppress black folks like back in the day. I'm not saying that racism isn't there, but its just not a thing like it was 50 years ago. Black folks are doing great, they are moving on up, as George Jefferson said.

I think you need to get off of CD and live a little, people aren't really that bad. Life isn't that bad, and despite what you see in the media, things aren't that bad, really.
Yeah, these blacks with a chip on their shoulder drinking the kool-aid that the left is feeding them do need to get a life. Most hard core Trump supporters and other conservatives do not hate blacks or have a "fear of the other". Who are these others anyway? Immigrants here illegally? Radical Muslims here to harm us? That's an irrational fear of the "other"? I don't think so!
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