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Old 06-21-2020, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I know you can't face it now you have to face the fact soon enough that Trump is so done. He won in 2016 by less then 100k votes. He didn't face any of these problems Covid-19 is spiking again states are looking at shutting down again. Unemployment is highest since 1936 on top of all that we have racial protests this time it's different not going to blow over.

Trumps polling is in a tail spin now he is exceeding 10% losses in many states. This time Trump has to defend all of this in the debates where Biden has no record to defend. He was a VP but had little to do with policy unlike Clinton who did.

In a way if you compare it to the 2016 election Biden has become Trump of 2016. He can attack Trumps record handing the virus, impeachment, firing prosecutors.
I'm not a lock to vote Trump anyway. I'm an independent. I am leaning Trump, but I may vote Libertarian whoever that winds up being--or Green Party.

Trump was elected to be a "disrupter" and has done a ton in 4 years--albeit many do think he is too divisive.

I *think* he will be re-elected, but Biden could tip the scales with his VP pick. Doubtful but we shall see.

Part of me is almost thinking I'm tired of hearing the nonstop, every single day rage against Trump and what crisis is gonna come out of the White House today, that sort of thing.

If Biden weren't so near dementia, he could be a better option.
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:49 PM
 
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We are now near July, I have not seen one bumper sticker, signs, or any billboard or pop-ups about Joe Biden. Compared to 2016, I've seen more Hillary Clinton advertisement than Trump. However, lately I started seeing Trump yard signs popping up. This is not a good sign for Democrats if they think they got this one again like they screwed up in 2016. If they think they got this one in their back pockets again they are underestimating Trump's voting base and they are not giving Joe Biden a good shot at beating Trump.

I am an independent that supports Trump but I have issue seeing anyone win fair and square. However I see a really poorly organized Democrat push for Joe Biden. Once again they think people will go out and vote for Biden without any kind of rally or major push.

You can't count on BLM or all the anti-Trump folks to show up and vote for Joe Biden because many anti-Trump folks are not necessarily supportive of Joe Biden.

In June of 2016, Trump was busy going around the country packing stadiums and having huge rallys back to back while the media just ignored him and wrote him off.

During June 2016, they said Hillary was 12% points ahead of Trump by CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/polit...ump/index.html

Now, they are only saying Biden is 8% points ahead of Trump this year.

They should be telling people that Trump is ahead and Joe Biden needs their help.
First of all, never put bumber stickers on your car. It will sell for less. No one wants your personal stickers so just leave your car untouched. I have never advertised my political afflication with signs or whatever. I just vote for who I want.
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Old 06-21-2020, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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According to CD forums....2016 will replay forever until the end of time.
The Dems are using the same playbook that they used in 2016. Zero on policy and 100% anti-Trump and Trump supporters.... they just have a much worse candidate than HRC. They can point out a bunch of issues, but have no solutions to offer other than... it’s Trumps fault.
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Old 06-21-2020, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I'm not a lock to vote Trump anyway. I'm an independent. I am leaning Trump, but I may vote Libertarian whoever that winds up being--or Green Party.

Trump was elected to be a "disrupter" and has done a ton in 4 years--albeit many do think he is too divisive.

I *think* he will be re-elected, but Biden could tip the scales with his VP pick. Doubtful but we shall see.

Part of me is almost thinking I'm tired of hearing the nonstop, every single day rage against Trump and what crisis is gonna come out of the White House today, that sort of thing.

If Biden weren't so near dementia, he could be a better option.
Biden could be in a hospital bed as long as he can put his hand on a bible and be sworn in he would win this election.

I found a list of things That Trump did from Business insider https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...an-and-syria-9

Accomplishment: Tax reform
Accomplishment: Space Force
Accomplishment: Reshaping the federal judiciary
Accomplishment: First Step Act
Accomplishment: Defeating ISIS's caliphate and taking out Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Failure: Charlottesville
Failure: America's global image is in shambles
Failure: Family separations and the deaths of migrant children
Failure: Iran and Syria
Failure: Replace the Affordable Care Act (AKA Obamacare)
Failure: Impeachment

Ill add these 3
Failure: Handling Covid-19
Failure: handling Racial protest
Failure: Bolton's book
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Old 06-22-2020, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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First of all, never put bumber stickers on your car. It will sell for less. No one wants your personal stickers so just leave your car untouched. I have never advertised my political afflication with signs or whatever. I just vote for who I want.
agreed, I've never put a bumper sticker on any of my vehicles. I have too much pride in them to trash them up. I couldn't do that to my pristine 2018 Camaro SS
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Old 06-22-2020, 05:45 PM
 
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My prediction

1. Trump will lose in November by a landslide Biden will win between 400-500 EC votes
2. Trump supporters will stop talking about him hardly see any post on social media about Trump anymore
3. Trump will face criminal charges possibly even face prison time
4. GOP will lose more seats in following elections as Trump backlash last for years on them.
5. Most progressive Federal government since FDR.
6. Democrats will end up in power for next 8 years possibly 10 one side of congress and the white house.
7. Democrats will ban gun for law abiding citizens
8. Democrats will rewrite US history by erasing our Founding Fathers because Founding Fathers is so sexist.
9. Democrats will abolish the US Supreme Court because the Supreme Court was created by the Founding Fathers.
10. Democrats will rename United States of America (USA) to United States of Socialist America (USSA).
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Old 06-22-2020, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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7. Democrats will ban gun for law abiding citizens
8. Democrats will rewrite US history by erasing our Founding Fathers because Founding Fathers is so sexist.
9. Democrats will abolish the US Supreme Court because the Supreme Court was created by the Founding Fathers.
10. Democrats will rename United States of America (USA) to United States of Socialist America (USSA).
You made all that up
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Old 06-22-2020, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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Biden could be in a hospital bed as long as he can put his hand on a bible and be sworn in he would win this election.

I found a list of things That Trump did from Business insider https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...an-and-syria-9

Accomplishment: Tax reform
Accomplishment: Space Force
Accomplishment: Reshaping the federal judiciary
Accomplishment: First Step Act
Accomplishment: Defeating ISIS's caliphate and taking out Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Failure: Charlottesville
Failure: America's global image is in shambles
Failure: Family separations and the deaths of migrant children
Failure: Iran and Syria
Failure: Replace the Affordable Care Act (AKA Obamacare)
Failure: Impeachment

Ill add these 3
Failure: Handling Covid-19
Failure: handling Racial protest
Failure: Bolton's book
strange as it sounds, I would actually file impeachment under the “Success” column. It was an obvious witch hunt by the Dems.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:06 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I don't think Biden has much corporate support and the DNC doesn't have as much money this time than the last time. The money factor will play out when it's time to rally people to get out to vote.

In order for Biden to beat Trump, these 3 things has to happen:

- Biden must get all Clinton's voter turnouts
- Flip as much as 10% of Trump's voters
- He also must campaign the same battleground states the last 2 weeks of the election as Trump did

People don't realize how difficult it is to beat a sitting president. There are many people who are gonna vote this election with their pocketbooks and they don't listen to the media at all. If they did, Trump would have never won against Clinton.

The reason Trump won because the undecided factor that aren't counted by the polls.

Clinton was the stronger candidate, many educated people are solidly behind Clinton last time which gave her a near 9 million popular vote lead over Trump. I suspect this election, Trump would actually beat Biden by atleast 4 million popular votes because most people do not know who Mr. Biden is other than the recent Ukraine scandal with his son. He has not delivered a convincing message why he should be president other than the fact that he is the anti-Trump camp. Voter turnout for Mr. Biden won't be as much as Clinton's support. Many that never voted before wanted to see a woman president and they may not vote this election.

That isn't enough to beat Trump, I think a lot of Democrats are too over confident and not looking at the real deciding factors why Trump beat Clinton last time. It wasn't a fluke and it wasn't because of Russian hacking. If you still believe it's Russians or some conspiracy you are too biased to understand political science.

Almost 2/3 of white male voters voted for Trump last time, that's a fact. If Clinton couldn't beat Trump with near 3/4 of females voted for her what makes people think that Biden would get the same support and more?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7407996.html

Most people don't flip votes especially for a sitting president. If Mr. Trump didn't have a chance to win re-election I would point those things out. So far, he has dodged a bullet. The stock market has recovered and COVID19 deaths are down even though cases are up but in all likelihood the 2nd wave will come after the election so he will win and then the virus will slam us hard.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:12 PM
 
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The Dems are using the same playbook that they used in 2016. Zero on policy and 100% anti-Trump and Trump supporters.... they just have a much worse candidate than HRC. They can point out a bunch of issues, but have no solutions to offer other than... it’s Trumps fault.
Voters dont care about policy. They vote their pocketbook and this economy is trashed. And lol at even bringing up policy....what policies is Trump running on? Give me a 2nd chance after i accomplished nothing
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