We are steaming to disaster

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

Seems pretty obvious that Swing state polls are closing but national polls are not budging.

It’s one thing to lose the election like Bush v Gore or Clinton v Trump where the loser won the popular vote by less than 2.5 points and had under 50% of the vote.

But if Biden gets 52% of the vote, wins by 7-8% or about 10,000,000-11,000,000 votes and loses in the EC. We are going to enter a public legitimacy crises. And it’s going to be ugly.

I don’t think people quite understand how unrepresentative the system truly can get because the smallest states are actually split between the parties but this isn’t even the worst theoretical alignment.

Swing state polls really haven't changed that much. Half of them have barely been polled at all, so trends aren't really known. Also, some of the polling aggregates like RCP are ignoring tons of polls. For example, RCP has shown 7 polls for Wisconsin this month, yet there have been 18. They seem to be ignoring a lot of them, but do include polls like Trafalgar, which is a known Republican pollster basically hired by the Trump campaign. The swing states aren't as close as RCP has them.

One thing to remember is that these polling sites love a closer election- it means more traffic.

[TimAZ]

Originally Posted by burdell

With the antiquated EC, it's theoretically possible for a candidate to win the 48 'winner take all' states by a grand total of 48 votes and the votes for the losing candidate count for nothing.

That's a good thing HOW, especially in a country that sends men and women off to unnecessary wars of choice to fight to bring democracy to other countries when we have none ourselves?

By design — the word “democracy” appears nowhere in the Constitution. If you don’t like the Electoral College the Constitution offers a remedy. Apparently leftists are too lazy deal with reality — they’d rather stamp their feet and scream at the sky.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by TimAZ

By design — the word “democracy” appears nowhere in the Constitution. If you don’t like the Electoral College the Constitution offers a remedy. Apparently leftists are too lazy deal with reality — they’d rather stamp their feet and scream at the sky.

It’s almost like an increasing minority rule system needs a very large majority to make it fair.

The Senate/electoral college was conserversial in 1789 when the states were much closer in size to each other than today.

This isn’t even remotely the most unfair orientation.

If someone gets a majority of the vote and a huge vote margin and loses it will be a massive crisis. Just because a system exists doesn’t mean it’s just.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by bu2

Go back to elementary school.

The whole purpose of the electoral college is so that the big states couldn't dominate the smaller states.

Actually no. It was so that the populous northern states could not eliminate slavery in the south.