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Originally Posted by censusdata
I think Ohio is becoming a reliably red state. GOP gaining in Midwest but loosing ground in South and interior west. I just took a trip all the way through the state on I-75 it was a sea of Trump flags. Literally caravans of cars and motorcycles with Trump flags. Columbus and Cleveland are solid blue but not enough population to offset rest of state.
(Red highlighted pun intended).
Far western Ohio, where I-75 is routed, is the bright shining red of the state - especially NW Ohio (Toledo possibly excepted).
Even Cincinnatti, from all I read, seems conservative for a city it's size (though no doubt like other central cities, the city proper is a blue fortress). As I said, the mining counties of the eastern (presumably mostly SE part) are going all in for Trump. So I agree that Cleveland and Columbus will decide how Ohio goes next month.
No because Trump could be on a ventilator and still win the state by 10
Definitely not true...if you drive around the Cleveland area like I do, it's at least 10-1 in favor of Biden signs over Trump signs.
Hillary was not liked at all in this state, Biden doesn't have that same disadvantage...Ohioans are moderate and pragmatic...we know a charlatan when we see one and we know Trump is that.
Our states rural areas are very backward unfortunately and a very reliably republican but our cities are strongly Democratic and now the suburbs are turning.
Unfortunately due to gerrymandering, we only have the 4 Dem house seats even though more votes went to the Dems in the last congressional election than went to repubs.
Last edited by ohioaninsc; 10-02-2020 at 05:30 PM..
Far western Ohio, where I-75 is routed, is the bright shining red of the state - especially NW Ohio (Toledo possibly excepted).
Even Cincinnatti, from all I read, seems conservative for a city it's size (though no doubt like other central cities, the city proper is a blue fortress). As I said, the mining counties of the eastern (presumably mostly SE part) are going all in for Trump. So I agree that Cleveland and Columbus will decide how Ohio goes next month.
It will really be the suburbs around Cleveland-Akron and around Columbus...they moved blue in 18 (Brown won the suburbs big)...if they go Blue w/ their major cities, then Biden will win the state.
RCP currently has Biden w/ a 3 pt lead...Trump was polling ahead by 2 pts of Hillary at this point in 2016 here.
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Originally Posted by Phil75230
(Red highlighted pun intended).
Far western Ohio, where I-75 is routed, is the bright shining red of the state - especially NW Ohio (Toledo possibly excepted).
Even Cincinnatti, from all I read, seems conservative for a city it's size (though no doubt like other central cities, the city proper is a blue fortress). As I said, the mining counties of the eastern (presumably mostly SE part) are going all in for Trump. So I agree that Cleveland and Columbus will decide how Ohio goes next month.
Issue is more high enthusiasm for Trump = more people get out and vote for him. Trump has a cult following in the counties outside Cincy. What really changed statewide in 2016 was the NE counties outside of Cleveland swinging heavily to the GOP.
Definitely not true...if you drive around the Cleveland area like I do, it's at least 10-1 in favor of Biden signs over Trump signs.
Hillary was not liked at all in this state, Biden doesn't have that same disadvantage...Ohioans are moderate and pragmatic...we know a charlatan when we see one and we know Trump is that.
Our states rural areas are very backward unfortunately and a very reliably republican but our cities are strongly Democratic and now the suburbs are turning.
Unfortunately due to gerrymandering, we only have the 4 Dem house seats even though more votes went to the Dems in the last congressional election than went to repubs.
HAHA rural and "backward" as opposed to urban and "forward" I guess?
Issue is more high enthusiasm for Trump = more people get out and vote for him. Trump has a cult following in the counties outside Cincy. What really changed statewide in 2016 was the NE counties outside of Cleveland swinging heavily to the GOP.
The question for Ohio, which I didn't think would be this close, are those NE counties swinging back to Biden (enthusiastically). The key demographic is the white suburban mom, and that is where Trump has the most damage from 2016. Ohio being a toss up is a bad sign for Trump.
2016 was an anomaly. The average is R+2.8 since 1980, even including 2016. Without it, the average is just under R+2. I would agree that polling there is tight, though there has been very little good polling lately.
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