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Sadly, there is this pesky thing we do in America where we count the vote. These aren't just votes. These are American citizens - voters - that want their voice heard.
If when the dust settles, Republicans have more seats in the House, then so be it. And if Trump overtakes Biden because he had more votes than the other guy in PA, WI and MI - then so be it.
Absolutely the Republicans have a good chance of taking back the House, probably not this time, but certainly in the next few elections.
Why? It's a one-word answer. Gerrymandering.
It's yet another enormous weakness in our system of government, along with the Electoral College, lifetime appointments of Supreme Court justices, and the ever expanding powers of the Executive branch. It is the perfect recipe to move America from the land of the free to the land of one-party rule, and to finally rationalize a path to dismantling our Constitution.
No matter how they sputter and spin, it is not the "Left" that took advantage of these weaknesses. The authoritarian Right has always been the greatest risk to our democratic republic. This risk became apparent even before the World Wars - and now with the greatest propaganda tool in human history, the Internet, they are closing in on their prize.
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I think the 7th in Georgia has been called for D-Boudreaux. That had been a R seat since 1995, but newcommers moving in from outside the area have overtaken the long time resident conservatives.
Some Conservatives saw the demographic changes taking place over the past 10 years, and fled....like me.
The Southernmost portion of the 7th District now resembles parts of Downtown Atlanta, & those changes are moving outward (North in this case) from the City of Atlanta, into its suburbs.
This trend is playing out all across America where Conservatives build a fabulous low tax, low crime, good schools community, and then Democrats see that as attractive, and move there until they take it over. Then, the decline starts, and the Conservtives leave.
I've personally see this occur in Detroit, St. Louis, Palm Beach County Florida, & Atlanta. I fled all of them, & today, can hardly recognize the communities I left behind. I wish I had the solution.
For your above comment to be true, you would have to be at least 90. And even then you would still be wrong as both Detroit and St, Louis were built by the left not the right.
If anyone can make sense out of Fox News's House of Representatives dashboard, please chime in.
Its diagram of colored dots, shows 13 White seats undecided. Then, when you scroll down to the individual races, it shows 19 races still undecided, of which Republicans lead in 16 of those 19.
Some of those have check marks next to them, and are colored Red or Blue, and some are Black bands.
There is no way to reconcile the 13 White dots to the colored bands below.
Fox is in rapid decline.
Anyways, until I can find a competent news source, I'll just say the Republicans will wind up somewhere between 210-217.
Geez, we are 11 days past the elections, and we still have 13-19 House seats undecided. Government cannot do anything efficiently.
The 13 seats up top in white reflect the 13 races not yet called.
The 19 races at the bottom they have under a tab for what they considered hot races. The ones on that list in red have been called for the GOP, the ones on that list in blue have been called for the Democrats, the ones showing in black have not been called yet. These are separate from the list of races that haven't been called yet, though some overlap does exist (the ones in black are part of the list of the ones in white above)
Will Nancy have enough votes to remain Speaker?
The entire house votes, and last time she got 220 votes in a House with 237 Democrats. The Speaker must receive absolute majority of the votes cast, so some Speakers have won with less that 218 votes.
Will Nancy have enough votes to remain Speaker?
The entire house votes, and last time she got 220 votes in a House with 237 Democrats. The Speaker must receive absolute majority of the votes cast, so some Speakers have won with less that 218 votes.
Just to point out it was actually 220 out of 235 not 237, so there were 15 defections. Of those 15, 10 or 11 will remain. Three lost re-election, one switched parties (Van Drew), ten won re-election and one is currently one of the races yet to be called (Brindisi in NY-22)
The 13 seats up top in white reflect the 13 races not yet called.
The 19 races at the bottom they have under a tab for what they considered hot races. The ones on that list in red have been called for the GOP, the ones on that list in blue have been called for the Democrats, the ones showing in black have not been called yet. These are separate from the list of races that haven't been called yet, though some overlap does exist (the ones in black are part of the list of the ones in white above)
Thx for the help...where are the rest not called though? Why show just some of them? It is a lousy way to display the situation....12 days after the election.
Pubs will wind up with at least 211, and probably more. That is enough to pass legislation because of the moderate Dem House members, who want to get somethings done.
The 1st thing they'll pass, is another massive CARES givaway act, that they'll ALL skim billions off the top of.
The cash will flow to Big Biz, then back to the Congresspersons in campaign donations, book deals, speaking engagements, consulting fees, and sweetheart real estate deals.
Will Nancy have enough votes to remain Speaker?
The entire house votes, and last time she got 220 votes in a House with 237 Democrats. The Speaker must receive absolute majority of the votes cast, so some Speakers have won with less that 218 votes.
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Originally Posted by Smash255
Just to point out it was actually 220 out of 235 not 237, so there were 15 defections. Of those 15, 10 or 11 will remain. Three lost re-election, one switched parties (Van Drew), ten won re-election and one is currently one of the races yet to be called (Brindisi in NY-22)
Good information!
That helps focus on Nancy's problem. If D's have 225 and R's have 210 (just to use some figures), and 10 D's will not vote for Nancy, that means Nancy has 215 votes against 210 R votes. She can win if the 10 D's do not vote. But if they do .......She may not have absolute majority, which is required. In other words, she may need 218 votes to win and she may not have them.
I am sure the R leadership is doing everything they can to convert those D members who will not support Nancy. The 2 most important points to me are (1) this gives loyal members like The Squad more power since their vote is critical and (2) the House race is very, very important.
There is virtually no hope that an R will win, but perhaps someone other than Nancy..... But I can't imagine who..
Absolutely the Republicans have a good chance of taking back the House, probably not this time, but certainly in the next few elections.
Why? It's a one-word answer. Gerrymandering.
It's yet another enormous weakness in our system of government, along with the Electoral College, lifetime appointments of Supreme Court justices, and the ever expanding powers of the Executive branch. It is the perfect recipe to move America from the land of the free to the land of one-party rule, and to finally rationalize a path to dismantling our Constitution.
No matter how they sputter and spin, it is not the "Left" that took advantage of these weaknesses. The authoritarian Right has always been the greatest risk to our democratic republic. This risk became apparent even before the World Wars - and now with the greatest propaganda tool in human history, the Internet, they are closing in on their prize.
The left does not have clean hands when it comes to Gerrymandering.
In 1999 the count was 4/4 Dem/Rep. By the time 2012 came around it was 7/1 Dem/Rep.
Try switching 3 Dem to Rep today and see how Maryland's Gerrymandering has affected the House control.
Maryland is quite gerrymandered mess no question about that, however a fair Maryland map, likely only nets the GOP one seat. Much of the mess in the middle of the state is aimed an Incumbent protection from a potential Primary challenge, but they are a bunch of Democratic districts. When the GOP challenged the Maryland map, they only focused on the 6th, which got pushed into Montgomery County rather than challenge the rest of the map.
Good information!
That helps focus on Nancy's problem. If D's have 225 and R's have 210 (just to use some figures), and 10 D's will not vote for Nancy, that means Nancy has 215 votes against 210 R votes. She can win if the 10 D's do not vote. But if they do .......She may not have absolute majority, which is required. In other words, she may need 218 votes to win and she may not have them.
I am sure the R leadership is doing everything they can to convert those D members who will not support Nancy. The 2 most important points to me are (1) this gives loyal members like The Squad more power since their vote is critical and (2) the House race is very, very important.
There is virtually no hope that an R will win, but perhaps someone other than Nancy..... But I can't imagine who..
I think some of the AOC and the squad might not vote for her either.
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