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Old 05-21-2008, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Despite that, the state of Texas remains relatively 'red'. Its capital city (Austin) is quite blue due to the university presence, and the abundance of young people. "Educated" people moving to Texas, or the South in general has not influenced the politics of the state because people usually (but don't always) abandon the views of their previous residence (obviously if it forced them to leave, they shouldn't vote for that particular party any more). During the Democratic primaries, even the record turnouts are not really enough to sway states as large and geographically diverse such as Texas.
I agree. Austin is painfully blue, as is South Texas, but that's not enough to counter the vibrant red in the rural areas and Metroplex. Obama got his clock cleaned in the rural areas in the primary, surprise-surprise. And, news flash, most of this huge state is rural.

Texas is one of the most recession-proof states if not THE most recession-proof, with its affordable housing, low unemployment and diverse economy. What's funny is that the influx of West Coast liberals probably won't change the politics. Their former states are prime examples of what happens when hairy lefties run amok. We'd shoot them before allowing them to turn Texas into latte-land.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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I agree. Austin is painfully blue, as is South Texas, but that's not enough to counter the vibrant red in the rural areas and Metroplex. Obama got his clock cleaned in the rural areas in the primary, surprise-surprise. And, news flash, most of this huge state is rural.

Texas is one of the most recession-proof states if not THE most recession-proof, with its affordable housing, low unemployment and diverse economy. What's funny is that the influx of West Coast liberals probably won't change the politics. Their former states are prime examples of what happens when hairy lefties run amok. We'd shoot them before allowing them to turn Texas into latte-land.
Amen to that. I did not move to TX from CA just to have it become another PRC, People's Republic of CA (not China although sometimes it felt like that). If it gets to that point we can always have South Texas and North Texas. It already feels kind of like that anyways.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:39 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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As much as people think McCain and Cornyn will both win.

Sorry to disrupt you guess. The only democrat strong hold is Austin. (no one in his states knows why)
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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So I just looked at the 2004 results for every TX County(so many counties-LOL) and it will be an uphill climb for Obama for sure.

However, aside from the border counties, I did find some areas where further investment in time and campaigning might yield results.
Bexar County
Bush 55%/ Kerry 44%

Dallas County
Bush 50%/ Kerry 49%

Harris County
Bush 55%/ Kerry 45%

Jefferson County
Bush 51%/ Kerry 49%

Travis County
Bush 56%/ Kerry 42%

Perhaps the unpopularity of GWB and the GOP can also lift Obama's numbers there.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:06 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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So I just looked at the 2004 results for every TX County(so many counties-LOL) and it will be an uphill climb for Obama for sure.

However, aside from the border counties, I did find some areas where further investment in time and campaigning might yield results.
Bexar County
Bush 55%/ Kerry 44%

Dallas County
Bush 50%/ Kerry 49%

Harris County
Bush 55%/ Kerry 45%

Jefferson County
Bush 51%/ Kerry 49%

Travis County
Bush 56%/ Kerry 42%

Perhaps the unpopularity of GWB and the GOP can also lift Obama's numbers there.
Those are all home countys that house the primary metro city's.

Good luck though. Jefferson he might be able to win bit that is about it.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Those are all home countys that house the primary metro city's.

Good luck though. Jefferson he might be able to win bit that is about it.
Yeah,
TX is solidly conservative and in 2004, Bush won 61% of the vote while Kerry took 37%.

What intrigues me is this latest poll where McCain's lead is just 5%.

I guess we'll to see what happens, but I wont hold my breath.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why's Cornyn in trouble? I haven't seen any news about him.

The thing is, the Dems in this state put forth the SORRIEST individuals for office that it's nearly impossible to vote for them! OMG, when I went to a Clinton rally starring Bill here, they trotted out the Dem. candidates and, I kid y'all not, they looked like they had just rushed out to Goodwill and thrown on ill-fitting suits before showing up to the rally. The sheriff's candidate was this little wimpy bald dude who didn't look like he'd be an effective rent-a-cop and the Congressional candidate had taped-together glasses and bangs combed down over his forehead. He never looked at the crowd, but quietly read a speech off a sheet of notebook paper. I was in the front row and I couldn't hear a word he said.

It's truly pathetic.
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:01 AM
 
Location: London, KY
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Yeah,
TX is solidly conservative and in 2004, Bush won 61% of the vote while Kerry took 37%.

What intrigues me is this latest poll where McCain's lead is just 5%.

I guess we'll to see what happens, but I wont hold my breath.
Maybe because polls are just a bit misleading at this time of the campaign? I found a poll over on Rasmussen that had McCain leading Obama and Clinton in New Jersey. Do I think that McCain wins NJ? His chances are pretty poor..about as good as Obama picking up Texas.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Norwood, MN
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McCain will get at least 60% of the vote in Texas, it is still strongly Republicans.
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