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So he lost 5 million votes from 2017 that went to the right and you are celebrating?
It's still a blowout. Plus, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, Macron wasn't even popular so I would expect him to lose some votes compared to last time anyway. Also, turnout was lower this time.
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A successful incumbent adds votes on their re-election. Macron lost over 3 million votes that went to Le Pen. Nothing to brag about.
A successful incumbent WINS, which is what Macron did. Trump couldn't even do that as an incumbent and the US usually reelects incumbents.
France hasn't reelected an incumbent president for 20 years but they just elected an incumbent today.
A successful incumbent WINS, which is what Macron did.
France hasn't reelected an incumbent president for 20 years but they just elected an incumbent today.
Wins? at what cost? He lost 5 million voters from the last election. That shows that he will have a rough 2nd term and he can't blame the previous administration.
5 million voters that voted for him in 2017 went to the opposition. That is not success but holding on to power. France is a very liberal country, that's like New York Democrat governor losing 5 million votes on their re-election. That's not a good sign for the liberals.
It's still a blowout. Plus, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, Macron wasn't even popular so I would expect him to lose some votes compared to last time anyway. Also, turnout was lower this time.
not when France is a very liberal country. 5 million voters that voted for him didn't stay home, they went to the opposition 5 years later. So he lost 50% of his advantage in 5 years. He wins by 10 million votes in 2017 and now by 5 million. It's call a trend and the conservatives in France are in a good position.
If inflation gets worse and it will, his 5 million edge will be gone in 5 years.
In 2017, Macron got 20,743,128 votes while LePen got 10,638,475 votes.
In 2022, Macron got 18,779,809 votes while LePen got 13,297,728 votes.
So, Macron lost 1,963,319 votes, not 5 million. LePen gained 2,659,253 votes, not 5 million.
And yes, that's still a blowout. For comparison, the 1984 US presidential election in which Reagan demolished Mondale and is considered by everybody to be a blowout, Reagan got 58.8% to Mondale's 40.6%. Those are nearly the same percentages as Macron's 58.5% to LePen's 41.5%.
Let that sink in: Macron just defeated LePen by almost the same percentages as Reagan defeated Mondale.
The only difference between this time and 2017 is that, in 2017 it was a super-duper-ultra blowout. This time it's "just" a super-duper blowout.
not when France is a very liberal country. 5 million voters that voted for him didn't stay home, they went to the opposition 5 years later. So he lost 50% of his advantage in 5 years. He wins by 10 million votes in 2017 and now by 5 million. It's call a trend and the conservatives in France are in a good position.
If inflation gets worse and it will, his 5 million edge will be gone in 5 years.
So a few days ago all we heard was that Macron might lose....he didn't. He won.. that was the end game...
In 2017, Macron got 20,743,128 votes while LePen got 10,638,475 votes.
In 2022, Macron got 18,779,809 votes while LePen got 13,297,728 votes.
So, Macron lost 1,963,319 votes, not 5 million. LePen gained 2,659,253 votes, not 5 million.
And yes, that's still a blowout. For comparison, the 1984 US presidential election in which Reagan demolished Mondale and is considered by everybody to be a blowout, Reagan got 58.8% to Mondale's 40.6%. Those are nearly the same percentages as Macron's 58.5% to LePen's 41.5%.
Let that sink in: Macron just defeated LePen by almost the same percentages as Reagan defeated Mondale.
The only difference between this time and 2017 is that, in 2017 it was a super-duper-ultra blowout. This time it's "just" a super-duper blowout.
Macron lost 2 million votes and LePen gained 2.6 votes from 2017. That's a 4.6 million voter swing.
Reagan added to his base from 43,903,230 to 54,455,472. He went from 50.7% to 58.8%.
Macron lost votes from 2017. He went from 20,743,128 to 18,779,809. From 66% to 58.8%.
Reagan won 49 states and not the case with Macron. Wrong comparison.
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