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The Republican complete turnaround and rejection of her makes a great example of how far the Republican Party has fallen. I guess that is why this campaign is so interesting. Fascinating really.
It's like watching an accident right before your eyes. Maybe like watching and airplane fall from the skies. One might not know who is in the vehicle and otherwise one wouldn't care about them, but we just can't take our eyes off of the spectacle.
As opposed to the Democratic party? Who created the Russian collusion and pretended it was real and spent years investigating it? Who pushed Soros-funded DAs in cities across America with the corresponding explosions in crime and murders?
Funny how people can be so blind to their own biases and prejudices and hatred and pity.
The Republican complete turnaround and rejection of her makes a great example of how far the Republican Party has fallen. I guess that is why this campaign is so interesting. Fascinating really.
It's like watching an accident right before your eyes. Maybe like watching and airplane fall from the skies. One might not know who is in the vehicle and otherwise one wouldn't care about them, but we just can't take our eyes off of the spectacle.
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As opposed to the Democratic party?
Yes.
Compared to the Democratic Party, Republicans are traitors.
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Who created the Russian collusion and pretended it was real and spent years investigating it?
The Russian interference in our election was very real. Trump knew it.
Putin wanted a compliant incompetent boob in the Oval Office ... looked around and decided "yes, Trump will do nicely"
So they hacked into servers, they constructed thousands of memes with false or distorted information to mislead voters, tried to break into voter databases. They alse illegally funded political campaigns and sent spies among us, who did particularly well with Republicans.
So that really happened, and Trump really knew about it.
Furthermore, Trump obstructed the investigation into the matter, and he had Bill Barr shut down the Muller Probe before it could finish it's work. So don't tell us about "pretending". You are pretending nothing happened but the whole world knows better.
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Who pushed Soros-funded DAs in cities across America with the corresponding explosions in crime and murders?
There is no correlation.
Soros is a private citizen, not the Democratic party, and he can fund the campaign of anyone he likes, the same as Bezos, Murdoch, Adelson (now deceased of course), Scott, Mercer, Uihlein, Azar, DeVos, Mnuchin and Ross and all those other billionaires who throw their weight around and abuse our country.
If you don't like it, join with me and advocate for campaign finance reform.
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Originally Posted by DXBtoFL
Funny how people can be so blind to their own biases and prejudices and hatred and pity.
Compared to the Democratic Party, Republicans are traitors.
The Russian interference in our election was very real. Trump knew it.
Putin wanted a compliant incompetent boob in the Oval Office ... looked around and decided "yes, Trump will do nicely"
So they hacked into servers, they constructed thousands of memes with false or distorted information to mislead voters, tried to break into voter databases. They alse illegally funded political campaigns and sent spies among us, who did particularly well with Republicans.
So that really happened, and Trump really knew about it.
Furthermore, Trump obstructed the investigation into the matter, and he had Bill Barr shut down the Muller Probe before it could finish it's work. So don't tell us about "pretending". You are pretending nothing happened but the whole world knows better.
There is no correlation.
Soros is a private citizen, not the Democratic party, and he can fund the campaign of anyone he likes, the same as Bezos, Murdoch, Adelson (now deceased of course), Scott, Mercer, Uihlein, Azar, DeVos, Mnuchin and Ross and all those other billionaires who throw their weight around and abuse our country.
If you don't like it, join with me and advocate for campaign finance reform.
Indeed.
I notice how you mention "interference" when the point was about collusion Can't win the debate, so change the discussion.
There was no "collusion," although we do know that another foreign government interfered in our election with the goal of helping to elect Hillary Clinton:
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Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
Cops were pigs when they were beating up Vietnam war protesters. Do you know what year this is? The BLM riots that were incited by a 9 minute torture murder video were not an attempt to destroy our democracy. Chauvin is in jail for the next 22 years for inciting those riots. Send his lawyer some more money.
I notice how you mention "interference" when the point was about collusion Can't win the debate, so change the discussion.
It is not a change in the discussion.
The interference was real.
Trump knew about the help he received, and he welcomed it.
Then he tried to pay Putin back for the help by relieving Russia of the sanctions - quid pro quo.
Then he obstructed the investigations into what happened. At least ten incidences of that, all prosecutable.
Then Trump successfully shut down the investigation into the affair by firing Jeff Sessions and installing Bill Barr.
So there was actually no point at which it could actually be said there was no collusion. There was never a definitive exoneration of Trump for his part in the episode.
This we all know, you know it too.
If we had a chance to reopen the investigation where it was left off and continue the work we could perhaps exonerate Trump, but to claim that there was no collusion is premature. Typical of Trump to make such a claim, just like he claimed he won the 2020 election before the votes were all counted. That's his style.
You believe him because that is what you want to believe.
Just like you want to believe the 2020 election was stolen, because Trump (the notorious liar) said so.
Trump knew about the help he received, and he welcomed it.
Then he tried to pay Putin back for the help by relieving Russia of the sanctions - quid pro quo.
Then he obstructed the investigations into what happened. At least ten incidences of that, all prosecutable.
Then Trump successfully shut down the investigation into the affair by firing Jeff Sessions and installing Bill Barr.
So there was actually no point at which it could actually be said there was no collusion. There was never a definitive exoneration of Trump for his part in the episode.
This we all know, you know it too.
If we had a chance to reopen the investigation where it was left off and continue the work we could perhaps exonerate Trump, but to claim that there was no collusion is premature. Typical of Trump to make such a claim, just like he claimed he won the 2020 election before the votes were all counted. That's his style.
You believe him because that is what you want to believe.
Just like you want to believe the 2020 election was stolen, because Trump (the notorious liar) said so.
Chaney committed political suicide. Since you like talking about Trump, whom would you like for potus?
He lied about the 2020 election. That was a pre-meditated lie.
This is a dangerous lie. It harms the republic and has already cost people's lives.
He said he had a great healthcare plan: “We’re going to produce phenomenal health care. And we already have the concept of the plan. And it’ll be much better health care ... Yeah, we’ll be announcing that in two months, maybe less.”
This is something he had total control over, so it's not like he would be guessing. It turned out to be a complete lie.
He lied about Covid: “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,” ... well, that was when we already had 64 confirmed cases and community spread. This was when he had the opportunity and the power to be the most informed layman in the country on this issue. So that was a lie too.
People relied on what he said, so potential super spreader events (like Mardi Gras for one) we not canceled based upon his rosy proclamations. People suffered and died unnecessarily.
Like the lie he told on the campaign trail about publishing his tax returns after the 2016 election? Cheney just exposed him on the Big Lie. That's her bigliest sin.
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Can't win the debate, so change the discussion. 
