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I doubt that the debate changed any minds, as conservatives are convinced Vance dominated the debate while liberals were impressed with Ryan's delivery. The fundamentals of Ohio in 2022, however, are that the state leans right and the majority of the voters strongly disapprove of the current administration. We've seen numerous elections in red states that look competitive in the polls, yet when Election Day comes around the Republican wins with no difficulty at all.
My expectation is that Vance wins by 5 to 10% or maybe even more in the end. The median Ohio voter is more disturbed by Ryan agreeing with Pelosi on virtually all policies than they are by Trump supposedly attempting to subvert democracy. After all, the state easily gave Trump their electoral votes in 2016 and 2020, and odds are they'll do so again in 2024.
This.
No. Ryan is not a Marxist. Stupid hyperbole.
barring them finding Vance had inappropriate relations with a goat, Vance will win because OH is no longer a purple state. It clearly leans GOP. Not overwhelmingly, but the Dems either need a much better candidate or a much worse GOP opponent. Neither is true so odds are the GOP wins.
First Kelly got destroyed by Masters in Arizona, and now Ryan gets destroyed by Vance in Ohio. Now we see why these awful Marxists never want to debate their Republican opponents. They have nothing to run on except lies and fear.
Great job J.D. Vance!
"Ryan is an advocate of economic protectionism, unionization, and steps to reduce income inequality. A critic of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and globalization, he has criticized George W. Bush's and Barack Obama's trade policies while supporting many of the tariffs passed during the Trump administration. Ryan supports tougher measures against China and its ruling party, accusing the nation of currency manipulation and outsourcing American manufacturing jobs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ryan_(Ohio_politician)
"Ryan is an advocate of economic protectionism, unionization, and steps to reduce income inequality. A critic of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and globalization, he has criticized George W. Bush's and Barack Obama's trade policies while supporting many of the tariffs passed during the Trump administration. Ryan supports tougher measures against China and its ruling party, accusing the nation of currency manipulation and outsourcing American manufacturing jobs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ryan_(Ohio_politician)
Radical Marxist, eh?
Yup, anyone who votes with Nancy Pelosi almost 100% of the time is a radical Marxist.
Are we all going to ignore when Ryan called out Vance for metaphorically snuggling up with Alex Jones, Vance denied it and within 30 minutes there was tape released of Vance doing just that?
barring them finding Vance had inappropriate relations with a goat, Vance will win because OH is no longer a purple state. It clearly leans GOP. Not overwhelmingly, but the Dems either need a much better candidate or a much worse GOP opponent.
Ryan is a good candidate. He's moderate, is known for working for compromise, has statewide name recognition, has served in the U.S. House for 20 years despite the Ohio GOP trying to gerrymander him out of Congress.
The only negative thing I can find about him is that he once worked for Jim Traficant - but you can learn as much from a bad politician as you can a good one, I guess.
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Yup, anyone who votes with Nancy Pelosi almost 100% of the time is a radical Marxist.
You didn't read the post before responding, did you?
Ryan is a good candidate. He's moderate, is known for working for compromise, has statewide name recognition, has served in the U.S. House for 20 years despite the Ohio GOP trying to gerrymander him out of Congress.
The only negative thing I can find about him is that he once worked for Jim Traficant - but you can learn as much from a bad politician as you can a good one, I guess.
You didn't read the post before responding, did you?
Why, yes, Ohiogirl. I read the propaganda from "wikipedia," which was no doubt placed there by a Tim Ryan sycophant. He's a great liar, like most Democrat politicians. His actions are what matter to me, and his actions (votes) prove that he's a radical Marxist.
"Ryan is an advocate of economic protectionism, unionization, and steps to reduce income inequality. A critic of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and globalization, he has criticized George W. Bush's and Barack Obama's trade policies while supporting many of the tariffs passed during the Trump administration. Ryan supports tougher measures against China and its ruling party, accusing the nation of currency manipulation and outsourcing American manufacturing jobs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ryan_(Ohio_politician)
Radical Marxist, eh?
And in what world do you think his party will allow him to vote that way once he hits dc
Yup, anyone who votes with Nancy Pelosi almost 100% of the time is a radical Marxist.
Please define the term in your own words. Also please elaborate on the difference between a "radical Marxist" and a "Marxist" and lastly, what specific policies are you referring to?
Thanks.
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