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Old 05-30-2008, 08:35 PM
 
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Good read on the gray matter side of the campaign and how Team Obama did it.

Obama used party rules to foil Clinton - Yahoo! News (broken link)

"Without a doubt, their understanding of the nominating process was one of the keys to their success," said Tad Devine, a Democratic strategist not aligned with either candidate. "They understood the nuances of it and approached it at a strategic level that the Clinton campaign did not."

Careful planning is one reason why Obama is emerging as the nominee as the Democratic Party prepares for its final three primaries, Puerto Rico on Sunday and Montana and South Dakota on Tuesday. Attributing his success only to soaring speeches and prodigious fundraising ignores a critical part of contest.
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:21 PM
 
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Somehow I missed this thread when it was new, but during the DNC meeting Saturday I found this exceptional article online. It's more than an article, it's a pocket political history guide.

Besides showing how Obama's camp outsmarted - no other word for it - Hillary's fatally confident Armada, it gives an excellent history of how the Democrats' nominating process and distribution of delegates developed over the years, where superdelegates came from, and much more.

Very valuable article. Thanks for posting it
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:26 PM
 
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Shouldn't it be "How Clinton outsmarted Clinton"
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:40 PM
 
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Today was another strategic Obama victory. He comes off as a good tie compromising and the candidate of unity within the party.
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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He pulled his nmae from the ballot in Michigan abd floridas staes he would probably have loss and he now still gets many of the deleagtes with one person voting for him.As far as unity;it didn't sound like it has many of the Hillary DNC members votewd no and the crowd was pretty rowdy. She also reserved the right to take it to the rules committee.
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:16 PM
 
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If this wasn't so important, Hillary and her "changing goalpost" strategy would be funny in the extreme.
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:21 PM
 
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This whole thing is like a college student being told that their assignment would not count towards their exam, they don't bother finishing it and then they are told it does goes towards their final exam. Obama took his name off because he was told that the votes would not be counted. Clinton agreed that they wouldn't be counted. Obama didn't just remove his name because he felt like it, he was told that it would be pointless running as the votes had been sanctioned null and void by the DNC and all the candidates. Hillary only decided they should count when Obama started beating her and became uncatchable.
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:25 PM
 
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He pulled his nmae from the ballot in Michigan abd floridas staes he would probably have loss and he now still gets many of the deleagtes with one person voting for him.As far as unity;it didn't sound like it has many of the Hillary DNC members votewd no and the crowd was pretty rowdy. She also reserved the right to take it to the rules committee.

Hillary Clinton had 13 die hard supporters on the board going in. The vote was unaminous on Florida and only 9 against on MI, which meant that even her own supporters are moving towards reality. I am a 49 year old White professional woman who would have loved to see a woman president, but she is not the one for this election.
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:30 PM
 
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funny
I heard them say today that Obama took his name off so it would fly better for him
in other states
it does not matter much he will loose in the general election
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:34 PM
 
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Clinton has divided the party so much now that she has made it difficult for any dem to win the general election. The sooner she stops playing silly games and let's Obama reunite the party the better it will be for all Democrats. She has proved that she has no sense of reality. A dangerous quality for a President.
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